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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #165 on: March 11, 2021, 06:46:02 AM »

Very interesting and the entire article is worth a read. Thanks

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #166 on: March 12, 2021, 01:30:09 PM »
PSA: Covid Vaccine Reaction!
This happened yesterday and is important information for those of us whom happen to be over 65.

Note: I realize all recipients of this are NOT over 65 but thought you might want a clue what it will be like someday when you reach it.

A friend had his 2nd dose of the vaccine at the vaccination center after which he began to have blurred vision on the way home.

When he got home, he called the vaccination center for advice and to ask if he should go see a doctor, or be hospitalized.

He was told NOT to go to a doctor or a hospital, but just return to the vaccination center immediately and pick up his glasses.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #167 on: March 12, 2021, 02:10:13 PM »
Doesn't belong in this thread, will move.
Won't be half as funny.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #168 on: March 12, 2021, 02:18:49 PM »
Won't be half as funny.

Quote
PSA: Covid Vaccine Reaction!

in the beginning of a non-joke-thread about vaccination isn't funny.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #169 on: March 13, 2021, 10:03:18 PM »
Canada is making people wait 16 weeks between Pfizer shots.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #170 on: March 13, 2021, 10:09:00 PM »
Canada is making people wait 16 weeks between Pfizer shots.
Because of rationing?

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #171 on: March 13, 2021, 10:10:08 PM »
Is there a tool online where you can search for the Pfizer vaccine? I've had absolutely no luck so far.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #172 on: March 13, 2021, 10:15:04 PM »
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Quoting kind of defeats the purpose.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #173 on: March 13, 2021, 10:16:29 PM »
Because of rationing?

Yea, low supply.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #174 on: March 13, 2021, 10:20:59 PM »
Is there a tool online where you can search for the Pfizer vaccine? I've had absolutely no luck so far.

NY's vaccinefinder.nyc.gov specifies which one is used at the site, you can use ctrl f to highlight the ones you want
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #175 on: March 13, 2021, 10:25:54 PM »
Is it more advisable to get the second pfizer dose a few days early or a few weeks late? ETA: if you can't get it on time
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #176 on: March 13, 2021, 10:42:27 PM »
Is it more advisable to get the second pfizer dose a few days early or a few weeks late? ETA: if you can't get it on time
I believe based on a @biobook post it makes more sense to get it very late than very early, but based on the CHEMED interview of Dr. Paul Offit (immunologist from CHOP, he’s also on the FDA vaccine approval board) less than 4 days early or late really doesn’t matter.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #177 on: March 13, 2021, 10:54:14 PM »
I believe based on a @biobook post it makes more sense to get it very late than very early, but based on the CHEMED interview of Dr. Paul Offit (immunologist from CHOP, he’s also on the FDA vaccine approval board) less than 4 days early or late really doesn’t matter.
BTW this is the policy with All/most vaccines, they have a grace period of 4 days

I googled to back up my words
Quote
Q4: If a dose of vaccine was received before the minimum age or interval, does the dose
need to be repeated?
A4: Yes, the dose needs to be repeated or serological evidence of immunity obtained (where
acceptable under NYS school immunization regulations) if a dose of vaccine was
administered more than 4 calendar days before the recommended minimum age or
interval. Students whose immunization records show invalid intervals between doses of
vaccine as specified by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) catchup schedule can be considered "in process."

source https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/immunization/schools/docs/questions_and_answers.pdf

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #178 on: March 13, 2021, 11:22:26 PM »
Is there a tool online where you can search for the Pfizer vaccine? I've had absolutely no luck so far.
Why specifically Pfizer?

You can try calling drug stores and see which one they use.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #179 on: March 14, 2021, 12:18:19 AM »
I believe based on a @biobook post it makes more sense to get it very late than very early, but based on the CHEMED interview of Dr. Paul Offit (immunologist from CHOP, he’s also on the FDA vaccine approval board) less than 4 days early or late really doesn’t matter.
I don't remember saying anything like that, but I forget a lot of what I say soon after.  I vaguely remember someone else quoting CDC (can't remember who it was) so I just looked it up there, and this is their advice:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html

"The second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines should be administered as close to the recommended interval as possible, but not earlier than recommended (i.e., 3 weeks [Pfizer-BioNTech] or 1 month [Moderna]). However, second doses administered within a grace period of 4 days earlier than the recommended date for the second dose are still considered valid. If it is not feasible to adhere to the recommended interval and a delay in vaccination is unavoidable, the second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines may be administered up to 6 weeks (42 days) after the first dose. Currently, only limited data are available on efficacy of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered beyond this window."

I think that they mean that these two choices (4 d earlier, up to 6 wk later) are equally good for reaching optimal antibody/immunity that will persist for a relatively long term.  So if your second shot is scheduled for March 19, you could get it as soon as March 15 or as late as April 30, and your antibody levels would be equally as good in May-December, or maybe even beyond that. 

But you may be more concerned about what happens in the short term, in March-April.  If you want to be around people during that March15-April 30 interval, and if these are people who could potentially infect you, or people who are vulnerable and may be infected by you, that it would be better to get that second dose earlier, so that you get that boost in antibody sooner during that interval.