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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #180 on: March 14, 2021, 12:24:56 AM »
Why specifically Pfizer?

You can try calling drug stores and see which one they use.

Most of the pharmacies on the vaccine finder are Moderna, though some are Pfizer. So far the federal/state mass vaccination sites like the one at Medgar Evers are all Pfizer.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #181 on: March 14, 2021, 07:49:41 AM »
I don't remember saying anything like that, but I forget a lot of what I say soon after.  I vaguely remember someone else quoting CDC (can't remember who it was) so I just looked it up there, and this is their advice:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html

"The second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines should be administered as close to the recommended interval as possible, but not earlier than recommended (i.e., 3 weeks [Pfizer-BioNTech] or 1 month [Moderna]). However, second doses administered within a grace period of 4 days earlier than the recommended date for the second dose are still considered valid. If it is not feasible to adhere to the recommended interval and a delay in vaccination is unavoidable, the second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines may be administered up to 6 weeks (42 days) after the first dose. Currently, only limited data are available on efficacy of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered beyond this window."

I think that they mean that these two choices (4 d earlier, up to 6 wk later) are equally good for reaching optimal antibody/immunity that will persist for a relatively long term.  So if your second shot is scheduled for March 19, you could get it as soon as March 15 or as late as April 30, and your antibody levels would be equally as good in May-December, or maybe even beyond that. 

But you may be more concerned about what happens in the short term, in March-April.  If you want to be around people during that March15-April 30 interval, and if these are people who could potentially infect you, or people who are vulnerable and may be infected by you, that it would be better to get that second dose earlier, so that you get that boost in antibody sooner during that interval.
You read it wrong, it says 6 weeks after the first dose, not 6 weeks late. The grace period they give is only 2 weeks late.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #182 on: March 14, 2021, 02:21:51 PM »
You read it wrong, it says 6 weeks after the first dose, not 6 weeks late. The grace period they give is only 2 weeks late.
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Yes, you are right, and thanks for the correction.  I scanned this too quickly.  So delaying the second dose till 6 weeks after the first dose would translate into 2 weeks after the scheduled second dose of Moderna, or 3 weeks after the scheduled second dose of Pfizer.  Did I get that right?

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #183 on: March 15, 2021, 02:55:29 PM »
Sorry for treating this thread as a general Pfizer vaccine thread. For those who did not have Covid, how long after the second dose can one expect to begin experiencing side effects?
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #184 on: March 15, 2021, 02:57:57 PM »
Sorry for treating this thread as a general Pfizer vaccine thread. For those who did not have Covid, how long after the second dose can one expect to begin experiencing side effects?

How soon? Potentially right away which is why they keep people around for 15m for monitoring (I'm considering an allergic reaction to be a side effect).

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #185 on: March 15, 2021, 02:59:51 PM »
How soon? Potentially right away which is why they keep people around for 15m for monitoring (I'm considering an allergic reaction to be a side effect).

No, I'm talking about the fever and other "sick" side effects. I would assume if you didn't have an immediate reaction to the first dose, you wouldn't have for the second either.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #186 on: March 15, 2021, 03:03:49 PM »
No, I'm talking about the fever and other "sick" side effects. I would assume if you didn't have an immediate reaction to the first dose, you wouldn't have for the second either.

1. Side effects are expected to last 24-48hr, would probably kick in pretty soon.
2. FWIU such side effects are likelier at the 2nd dose (or the 1st dose for those who've already had COVID), because the immune system is already primed to react to the COVID spike in the vaccine and will thus react stronger.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #187 on: March 15, 2021, 03:06:26 PM »
Sorry for treating this thread as a general Pfizer vaccine thread. For those who did not have Covid, how long after the second dose can one expect to begin experiencing side effects?
I had fever/achiness starting around 8 hours after the second shot and it lasted a bit under 24 hours. Just arm soreness after the first.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #188 on: March 15, 2021, 03:17:44 PM »
How have the 2nd dose side effects been for people who had COVID?
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #189 on: March 15, 2021, 06:49:31 PM »
I had fever/achiness starting around 8 hours after the second shot and it lasted a bit under 24 hours. Just arm soreness after the first.
This is what I've heard from most people who got both pfizer and moderna. (People who never had coronavirus)

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #190 on: March 17, 2021, 10:42:22 AM »
Is there a tool online where you can search for the Pfizer vaccine? I've had absolutely no luck so far.

@Something Fishy in case you havenít found yet

Pfizer available in Manhattan tomorrow and Friday:
https://northwellvaccine.force.com/s/?id=a1T4x000007TQSKEA4

Found using https://nycvaccinelist.com/?includeDose=unspecified&includePharmacy=false

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #191 on: March 17, 2021, 10:56:42 AM »
@Something Fishy in case you havenít found yet

Pfizer available in Manhattan tomorrow and Friday:
https://northwellvaccine.force.com/s/?id=a1T4x000007TQSKEA4

Found using https://nycvaccinelist.com/?includeDose=unspecified&includePharmacy=false

Thanks!

Actually found in Monsey, scheduled for tomorrow.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #192 on: March 17, 2021, 11:23:13 AM »
Thanks!

Actually found in Monsey, scheduled for tomorrow.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #193 on: March 17, 2021, 11:26:30 AM »
Thanks!

Actually found in Monsey, scheduled for tomorrow.

Get it on your non-Tefillin arm
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #194 on: March 17, 2021, 11:35:06 AM »
Get it on your non-Tefillin arm

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #195 on: March 17, 2021, 11:39:32 AM »
@Something Fishy in case you havenít found yet

Pfizer available in Manhattan tomorrow and Friday:
https://northwellvaccine.force.com/s/?id=a1T4x000007TQSKEA4

Found using https://nycvaccinelist.com/?includeDose=unspecified&includePharmacy=false

What are the requirements? Can visitors to the US get it?
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #196 on: March 17, 2021, 11:42:19 AM »
What are the requirements? Can visitors to the US get it?

With Biden in charge, certainly:
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2021/02/01/dhs-statement-equal-access-covid-19-vaccines-and-vaccine-distribution-sites

But would likely have to claim US residence, presumably in the state in which they're getting vaccinated.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #197 on: March 17, 2021, 11:53:01 AM »
With Biden in charge, certainly:
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2021/02/01/dhs-statement-equal-access-covid-19-vaccines-and-vaccine-distribution-sites

But would likely have to claim US residence, presumably in the state in which they're getting vaccinated.
I provided "residency docs" to someone from out of state, he wasnt asked for anything. He provided passport for id though

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #198 on: March 17, 2021, 11:59:15 AM »
I provided "residency docs" to someone from out of state, he wasnt asked for anything. He provided passport for id though

Appointment confirmation states:
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Identification:
Sufficient identification includes a driver's license, passport, or any legal proof of your date of birth and residency. Note that
non-NYS residents may be vaccinated if they work in NYS in an eligible occupation. Minors under the age of 18, a parent or
guardian is required to identify the minor.

What does "any legal proof" mean? To me that sounds ambiguous. My guess is a foreign passport along with proof of residency will suffice. Proof of residency is ostensibly easier. For sites that require residency in a specific zipcode here's what the confirmation says:

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Sufficient identification includes a driver's license, passport, or any legal proof of your date of birth and residency. Note that
non-NYS residents may be vaccinated if they work in NYS in an eligible occupation. Minors under the age of 18, a parent or
guardian is required to identify the minor.

Keep in mind the mass vaccination centers do 1k-6k vaccinations a day, that's hundreds an hour. People are in and out in less than 20m including 15m post-jab for observation. The mindset is efficiency: Here's my appointment confirmation, my eligibility proof, my ID, my NYC vaccination form confirmation (demographic info collection BS), etc. As long as the person processing you can check all the boxes, they want you to get out of their way so they can get to the next person. I doubt they're scrutinizing anything too closely.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #199 on: April 01, 2021, 05:44:36 PM »
No, I'm talking about the fever and other "sick" side effects. I would assume if you didn't have an immediate reaction to the first dose, you wouldn't have for the second either.

Ftr, I didn't have any side effects at all (aside from a sore arm) after the second shot. Anecdotally, people getting Pfizer seem to have much lighter side effects than Moderna. It's this generally true, or just among the people I know?
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