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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #220 on: April 07, 2021, 07:40:58 PM »
Poll:
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/free-stuff/get-free-laminated-copy-covid-vaccine-card-will-get-covid-19-vaccine/

What does the poll have to do with the laminated card?

Also, surprised how many respondents didnít have COVID, though Iíd think theyíre more likely to vote on such a poll.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #222 on: April 12, 2021, 06:54:38 PM »
Had COVID with antibodies, and looking to get vaxxed soon. Haven't been following closely, what's the better course of action to prevent COVID long term, and which has least side effects?

1 shot of Pfizer/Moderna
1 shot J&J

I don't plan on taking 2 shots bec. FWIU it's unnecessary for COVID recoverers.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #223 on: April 12, 2021, 07:16:06 PM »
Had COVID with antibodies, and looking to get vaxxed soon. Haven't been following closely, what's the better course of action to prevent COVID long term, and which has least side effects?

1 shot of Pfizer/Moderna
1 shot J&J

I don't plan on taking 2 shots bec. FWIU it's unnecessary for COVID recoverers.

I donít think this question has been studied or a conclusive answer is known, but you can ask your doctor.

The data we have (for those who havenít been infected) seems to show marginally better efficacy with Pfizer/Moderna single dose vs JNJ, but there isnít any long term data yet.

As for side effects, I donít think there are comparative studies and all vaccines have a significant likelihood of some immediate side-effects that pass and donít leave any long-term effects, and an extremely small risk of more serious side effects that are so rare theyíre considered negligible.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #224 on: April 12, 2021, 07:26:42 PM »
I donít think this question has been studied or a conclusive answer is known, but you can ask your doctor.

The data we have (for those who havenít been infected) seems to show marginally better efficacy with Pfizer/Moderna single dose vs JNJ, but there isnít any long term data yet.

As for side effects, I donít think there are comparative studies and all vaccines have a significant likelihood of some immediate side-effects that pass and donít leave any long-term effects, and an extremely small risk of more serious side effects that are so rare theyíre considered negligible.

Thanks, regarding side effects - not concerned much about long term side effects, rather which one is more likely to knock me out for a few days.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #225 on: April 12, 2021, 07:34:02 PM »
Thanks, regarding side effects - not concerned much about long term side effects, rather which one is more likely to knock me out for a few days.
Go for Pfizer. Somewhat less likely short term side effects than Moderna. Much more likely to have a quicker answer to variants than J&J.

However note that many countries are reopening only if you're fully vaccinated. If you only do 1 Pfizer you may not qualify to enter. Also worth noting that the 1st shot is worse for people who had COVID, while the 2nd shot is worse for people who didn't have COVID.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #226 on: April 12, 2021, 07:35:46 PM »
Go for Pfizer. Somewhat less likely short term side effects than Moderna. Much more likely to have a quicker answer to variants than J&J.

However note that many countries are reopening only if you're fully vaccinated. If you only do 1 Pfizer you may not qualify to enter. Also worth noting that the 1st shot is worse for people who had COVID, while the 2nd shot is worse for people who didn't have COVID.

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I also lean toward Pfizer but there isnít any data. I also think itís the most internationally recognized vaccine available in the US for countries allowing in fully-vaccinated Americans.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #227 on: April 12, 2021, 07:36:38 PM »
I also lean toward Pfizer but there isnít any data.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #228 on: April 12, 2021, 07:40:00 PM »
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The study quoted on DDF that shows 5% for Pfizer and 8% for Moderna? If your entire additional exposure is 3% to what very well might be mild symptoms, then in my eyes itís a wash.

Either way, the OP was asking whether a vaccinated person should prefer 1 jab of J&J vs. 1 jab of mRNA, and for that specific situation I donít think thereís comparative data. Please CMIIW.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #229 on: April 12, 2021, 10:17:18 PM »
Also worth noting that the 1st shot is worse for people who had COVID, while the 2nd shot is worse for people who didn't have COVID.
Someone I know who had covid last march and developed antibodies, had a much bigger reaction (fever etc) to the second moderna shot.

That's just one example obviously, but it could happen...
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #230 on: April 12, 2021, 10:22:25 PM »
Also worth noting that the 1st shot is worse for people who had COVID, while the 2nd shot is worse for people who didn't have COVID.

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My wife never had Covid and was very sick for 3 days after the 1st Pfizer shot as opposed to nothing from the second shot.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #231 on: April 12, 2021, 10:23:31 PM »
My wife never had Covid and was very sick for 3 days after the 1st Pfizer shot as opposed to nothing from the second shot.
How do you know she never had COVID?
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #232 on: April 12, 2021, 10:25:52 PM »
How do you know she never had COVID?
She worked in a hospital throughout the pandemic and consistently got tested. I work in healthcare as well and have been getting tested twice weekly since the beginning without ever testing positive

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #233 on: April 13, 2021, 06:03:40 AM »
She worked in a hospital throughout the pandemic and consistently got tested. I work in healthcare as well and have been getting tested twice weekly since the beginning without ever testing positive
The two of you got test throughout January and February 2020?
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #234 on: April 13, 2021, 07:04:55 AM »
She worked in a hospital throughout the pandemic and consistently got tested. I work in healthcare as well and have been getting tested twice weekly since the beginning without ever testing positive

Was she ever tested for antibodies?

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #235 on: April 13, 2021, 08:04:21 AM »
Had COVID with antibodies, and looking to get vaxxed soon. Haven't been following closely, what's the better course of action to prevent COVID long term, and which has least side effects?

1 shot of Pfizer/Moderna
1 shot J&J

I don't plan on taking 2 shots bec. FWIU it's unnecessary for COVID recoverers.

You may not have a choice:
https://www.foxnews.com/health/fda-recommends-pause-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-blood-clot-cases
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #236 on: April 13, 2021, 08:07:28 AM »
You may not have a choice:
https://www.foxnews.com/health/fda-recommends-pause-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-blood-clot-cases
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These people have no clue about cost benefit analysis. As insane as their European counterparts. 1 in a million risk. How about covid risk?

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #238 on: April 13, 2021, 08:32:35 AM »
You may not have a choice:
https://www.foxnews.com/health/fda-recommends-pause-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-blood-clot-cases
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These people have no clue about cost benefit analysis. As insane as their European counterparts. 1 in a million risk. How about covid risk?
It's impossible at this point to evaluate the risk. If there is any evidence of causation, no question they have to shut it down and conduct a study.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #239 on: April 13, 2021, 08:39:29 AM »
You may not have a choice:
https://www.foxnews.com/health/fda-recommends-pause-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-blood-clot-cases

These people have no clue about cost benefit analysis. As insane as their European counterparts. 1 in a million risk. How about covid risk?

Itís not 1 in a million risk. Thatís the currently known amount of cases of a difficult to diagnose, extremely rare clotting that can take weeks to uncover. Wait a couple weeks to gather more data because it seems to be on the path of the similar AZ vaccine which has 222 cases in 34 million vaccinations.