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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #80 on: December 13, 2020, 10:39:15 PM »
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #81 on: December 15, 2020, 03:32:15 PM »
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Once supply outpaces demand, it would be good for people in position of leadership/influencers to get vaccinated publicly to engender public trust in the vaccine.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #82 on: December 15, 2020, 03:43:02 PM »
Once supply outpaces demand, it would be good for people in position of leadership/influencers to get vaccinated publicly to engender public trust in the vaccine.
If Trump tries to get the vaccine early he’ll be vilified for jumping the line. If he doesn’t he’ll be excoriated for making others do what he won’t. Darned if he doesn’t, darned if he does.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #83 on: December 15, 2020, 03:44:00 PM »
If Trump tries to get the vaccine early he’ll be vilified for jumping the line. If he doesn’t he’ll be excoriated for making others do what he won’t. Darned if he doesn’t, darned if he does.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2020, 03:55:07 PM »
If Trump tries to get the vaccine early he’ll be vilified for jumping the line. If he doesn’t he’ll be excoriated for making others do what he won’t. Darned if he doesn’t, darned if he does.
Does he need it considering that he was infected?
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #85 on: December 15, 2020, 03:56:54 PM »
Does he need it considering that he was infected?
The Billion dollar question.

The CLE Clinic isn't giving theirs to Docs who were covid+ in the past 90 days.
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« Reply #86 on: December 15, 2020, 04:02:02 PM »
Does he need it considering that he was infected?
He likely does not, at least at this point. Don’t think anyone in the MSM will bother mentioning that in their attacks, though.

Even if he doesn’t personally vaccinate his tweet was about staff, likely staff that has not been infected yet.
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« Reply #87 on: December 15, 2020, 04:02:40 PM »

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The media is mending him.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #88 on: December 15, 2020, 07:43:18 PM »
The Billion dollar question.

The CLE Clinic isn't giving theirs to Docs who were covid+ in the past 90 days.
There's a theory than Mono AG cocktails like Regeneron that was given to Trump may inhibit antibody development, so Trump would be in a different category.

I don't think it's so far fetched he'll ask Pfizer/Modern to pay him big $$$ to 'endorse' the vaccine and take it after he leaves office.
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« Reply #89 on: December 15, 2020, 07:49:59 PM »
There's a theory than Mono AG cocktails like Regeneron that was given to Trump may inhibit antibody development
Is this true? Would really like to hear more about this. I have been asked this question by someone it’s very relevant to.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #90 on: December 15, 2020, 08:57:17 PM »
Is this true? Would really like to hear more about this. I have been asked this question by someone it’s very relevant to.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/health/coronavirus-trump.html


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A unique treatment course may have blunted his body’s production of antibodies, scientists warn.

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“He may be not protected the second time around, especially because he didn’t develop his own antibodies,” said Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at Yale University.

Also, steroids like dexamethasone may suppress antibody production.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #91 on: December 15, 2020, 10:05:40 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/health/coronavirus-trump.html


Also, steroids like dexamethasone may suppress antibody production.
Thanks. It’s hard to know what’s true and what’s not when it’s the Gray Lady vs. Trump.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #92 on: December 15, 2020, 10:50:39 PM »
Thanks. It’s hard to know what’s true and what’s not when it’s the Gray Lady vs. Trump.
What makes you think anything might be true.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #93 on: December 15, 2020, 11:18:41 PM »
What makes you think anything might be true.
The small fact that there isn't a single professional opinion to the contrary, and it is quoting one of the most respected immunologists in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akiko_Iwasaki
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2020, 11:51:19 PM »
The small fact that there isn't a single professional opinion to the contrary, and it is quoting one of the most respected immunologists in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akiko_Iwasaki
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #95 on: December 16, 2020, 12:14:29 AM »
Sometimes you take me too seriously when it wasn't meant to be.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2020, 10:18:57 AM »
If Trump tries to get the vaccine early he’ll be vilified for jumping the line. If he doesn’t he’ll be excoriated for making others do what he won’t. Darned if he doesn’t, darned if he does.

Which is why I specifically said once supply outpaces demand, until then there’s no imperative to engender trust in a vaccine that is not yet available.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2020, 08:53:42 PM »
FWIW Israel policy regarding priorities in receiving vaccines states that people who recovered from COVID-19 don't get vaccines.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #98 on: December 16, 2020, 09:10:53 PM »
FWIW Israel policy regarding priorities in receiving vaccines states that people who recovered from COVID-19 don't get vaccines.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #99 on: December 16, 2020, 09:39:04 PM »


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