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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #90 on: December 15, 2020, 08:57:17 PM »
Is this true? Would really like to hear more about this. I have been asked this question by someone its very relevant to.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/health/coronavirus-trump.html


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A unique treatment course may have blunted his bodys production of antibodies, scientists warn.

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He may be not protected the second time around, especially because he didnt develop his own antibodies, said Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at Yale University.

Also, steroids like dexamethasone may suppress antibody production.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #91 on: December 15, 2020, 10:05:40 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/health/coronavirus-trump.html


Also, steroids like dexamethasone may suppress antibody production.
Thanks. Its hard to know whats true and whats not when its the Gray Lady vs. Trump.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #92 on: December 15, 2020, 10:50:39 PM »
Thanks. Its hard to know whats true and whats not when its the Gray Lady vs. Trump.
What makes you think anything might be true.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #93 on: December 15, 2020, 11:18:41 PM »
What makes you think anything might be true.
The small fact that there isn't a single professional opinion to the contrary, and it is quoting one of the most respected immunologists in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akiko_Iwasaki
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2020, 11:51:19 PM »
The small fact that there isn't a single professional opinion to the contrary, and it is quoting one of the most respected immunologists in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akiko_Iwasaki
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #95 on: December 16, 2020, 12:14:29 AM »
Sometimes you take me too seriously when it wasn't meant to be.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2020, 10:18:57 AM »
If Trump tries to get the vaccine early hell be vilified for jumping the line. If he doesnt hell be excoriated for making others do what he wont. Darned if he doesnt, darned if he does.

Which is why I specifically said once supply outpaces demand, until then theres no imperative to engender trust in a vaccine that is not yet available.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2020, 08:53:42 PM »
FWIW Israel policy regarding priorities in receiving vaccines states that people who recovered from COVID-19 don't get vaccines.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #98 on: December 16, 2020, 09:10:53 PM »
FWIW Israel policy regarding priorities in receiving vaccines states that people who recovered from COVID-19 don't get vaccines.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #99 on: December 16, 2020, 09:39:04 PM »


This is why Bibbi is one of the top politicians in the world.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #100 on: December 18, 2020, 01:33:48 PM »
There are claims designing Human Challenge Trials would've actually taken longer than the 2 months it took to reach the efficacy thresholds. Remember, you have to effectively isolate anybody you infect, which would create an enormous logistical burden and severely limit the volunteer pool.
For efficacy, pay a few hundred/thousand people to live together in a close knit community setting while deliberately introducing COVID-19 several times as necessary. Separately inject tens of thousands elsewhere to check for safety.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #101 on: December 18, 2020, 02:06:16 PM »
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #102 on: January 05, 2021, 11:49:31 AM »
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #103 on: January 12, 2021, 01:15:52 PM »
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #104 on: January 12, 2021, 01:23:55 PM »

Shouldn't the drop be higher than 33%?