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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #200 on: April 01, 2021, 05:50:00 PM »
Ftr, I didn't have any side effects at all (aside from a sore arm) after the second shot. Anecdotally, people getting Pfizer seem to have much lighter side effects than Moderna. It's this generally true, or just among the people I know?
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #201 on: April 01, 2021, 06:55:57 PM »
Ftr, I didn't have any side effects at all (aside from a sore arm) after the second shot. Anecdotally, people getting Pfizer seem to have much lighter side effects than Moderna. It's this generally true, or just among the people I know?
Sure seems that way from my group of friends.
Anecdotal though of course.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #202 on: April 01, 2021, 07:06:24 PM »
Anyone have a good answer to why antibodies are not good enough for all these things you need to be vaccinated for, or have a recent covid test (such as sports games in NY)?
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #203 on: April 01, 2021, 07:07:12 PM »
I'm looking to get the J&J vaccine. Does anyone know where I can get in Brooklyn?. Everything I find in vaccinefinder says no appointments available.

Maybe we can start a new thread for this?

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #204 on: April 01, 2021, 07:25:49 PM »
I'm looking to get the J&J vaccine. Does anyone know where I can get in Brooklyn?. Everything I find in vaccinefinder says no appointments available.

Maybe we can start a new thread for this?

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #205 on: April 01, 2021, 08:48:23 PM »
I'm looking to get the J&J vaccine. Does anyone know where I can get in Brooklyn?. Everything I find in vaccinefinder says no appointments available.

Maybe we can start a new thread for this?

Does the Javits Center nighttime vaccination center have appointments available? They were only doing J&J there at night.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #206 on: April 01, 2021, 09:19:49 PM »
How have the 2nd dose side effects been for people who had COVID?

+1?

Also looking for info about the Moderna same question.
(asking as someone who had pretty rough s/e to first shot a year after recovering from covid.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #207 on: April 01, 2021, 09:33:46 PM »
Does the Javits Center nighttime vaccination center have appointments available? They were only doing J&J there at night.

No appointments available for J&J at the Javits center. They have only Pfizer appointment available.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #208 on: April 01, 2021, 09:58:06 PM »
Ftr, I didn't have any side effects at all (aside from a sore arm) after the second shot. Anecdotally, people getting Pfizer seem to have much lighter side effects than Moderna. It's this generally true, or just among the people I know?

My wife got Pfizer and had virtually no side effects, while I got Moderna and definitely had more - sore arm for a few days, plus a few hours of chills and fever. Since the plural of anecdote is data. :)

If it's true, I wonder if it could be related to the fact that Moderna has much more vaccine in a vial than Pfizer (100 micrograms vs. 30). @biobook

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #209 on: April 01, 2021, 10:32:03 PM »
If it's true, I wonder if it could be related to the fact that Moderna has much more vaccine in a vial than Pfizer (100 micrograms vs. 30). @biobook

I wonder if this might translate to better long-term immunity with Moderna, my gut tells me it won’t, and if it will and COVID will still be a thing, there’s always boosters.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #210 on: April 01, 2021, 11:29:15 PM »
+1?

Also looking for info about the Moderna same question.
(asking as someone who had pretty rough s/e to first shot a year after recovering from covid.
I got the moderna and had covid about 6 months earlier. After the first, I had the chills and slight fever after first dose. Nothing after the second,  but I was taking ibuprofen around the clock after I received the second dose.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #211 on: April 01, 2021, 11:37:05 PM »
This summary shows more reactions to Moderna vs Pfizer to first dose:  fever: 8.2% vs 5.8%, chills 8.4% vs. 5.5%.  So yeah, more side effects, but not a huge difference.  https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/03/26/comparing-covid-vaccines/

There was also a specific rash that was reported for Moderna, about a week after injection.  https://www.massgeneral.org/news/press-release/MGH-researchers-call-for-greater-awareness-of-delayed-skin-reactions-after-moderna-covid19-vaccine

Also slightly more allergic responses with Moderna: 
Scientists from Massachusetts General Hospital and Brigham and Women's Hospital administered email, text, phone, and smartphone app survey links to 64,900 employees who received a dose of one of the two mRNA coronavirus vaccines from Dec 16, 2020, to Feb 12, 2021.

A total of 25,929 employees (40%) received the Pfizer vaccine, while 38,971 (60%) received the Moderna vaccine. Eighty-one percent returned at least one symptom survey, which were sent each day for 3 days after vaccination.

Among all vaccinated employees, 1,365 (2.10%) reported acute allergic reactions, defined on the survey as itching, rash, hives, swelling, and/or respiratory symptoms. More Moderna vaccinees (2.20%) reported symptoms than Pfizer vaccinees (1.95%).
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/03/very-few-severe-allergic-reactions-tied-mrna-covid-vaccines

So, yes, slightly more side effects with Moderna, but not 3 times as much, so not obvious that it would relate to the weight of the vaccine.  What contributes to that difference in weight?  Is it a difference in the amount of mRNA, or are there differences in the amount of lipid and sugar included in each vaccine?   I really don't know the answers to any of these. 

But speaking of drawing conclusions from an n of 2:  My mother had no reaction at all, while I had a sore arm both times (Pfizer).  I had read that side effects decrease with age, so from this I concluded that my mother must be older than me.   ::)

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #212 on: April 01, 2021, 11:51:13 PM »
My mother had no reaction at all, while I had a sore arm both times (Pfizer).  I had read that side effects decrease with age, so from this I concluded that my mother must be older than me.   ::)

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #213 on: April 02, 2021, 03:20:53 AM »
speaking of drawing conclusions from an n of 2:  My mother had no reaction at all, while I had a sore arm both times (Pfizer).  I had read that side effects decrease with age, so from this I concluded that my mother must be older than me.   ::)
I wonder if the sore arm is a result of the vaccine in the blood system or the needle / vaccine in the arm, in which case it may make a difference how the actual injection is administered
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #214 on: April 02, 2021, 03:23:17 AM »
Anyone have a good answer to why antibodies are not good enough for all these things you need to be vaccinated for, or have a recent covid test (such as sports games in NY)?
Yes, the vaccines are more effective at preventing illness than a prior infection, especially with variants
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #215 on: April 02, 2021, 07:55:39 AM »
Anyone have a good answer to why antibodies are not good enough for all these things you need to be vaccinated for, or have a recent covid test (such as sports games in NY)?
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #216 on: April 02, 2021, 07:56:48 AM »
Yes, the vaccines are more effective at preventing illness than a prior infection, especially with variants
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #218 on: April 02, 2021, 09:38:51 AM »
I'm looking to get the J&J vaccine. Does anyone know where I can get in Brooklyn?. Everything I find in vaccinefinder says no appointments available.

Maybe we can start a new thread for this?

https://twitter.com/turbovax/status/1377962930688364545?s=19

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