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ticket to Israel in Feb
« on: October 29, 2009, 02:30:13 PM »
I have accumulated tons and tons of Starwood points as per all of Dans recommendations now I need to go to Israel on Feb 8th for a week where do I start, I don't mind going coach with a stop over, as long as it a reasonably short one, which carrier would be the easiest to deal with and still get a decent point:mile deal, can someone help?

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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 02:31:52 PM »
How many Starpoints do you have?
Where are you going from?
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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 11:12:14 AM »
I have close to 200,000,  thanks to you, and your great site but I am looking to use as few as possible I am going from NYC, I don't mind a stop over as long as it is not a long lay over

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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2009, 11:51:08 AM »
The fewest miles for NYC-TLV would be via Flying Blue or Alitalia Millemiglia at 40,000 SPG points. FB taxes are very high, Alitalia is higher than US airlines but not as high as FB.I paid 189.00 last year via Alitalia. Your choices are then Delta, Air France,Alitalia or KLM. Call them with your dates and check availability before transferring your SPG points.

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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2009, 12:16:56 PM »
Thanks for the info
Which ones have the bonus miles when you transfer point to miles?
Do they hold the ticket while you transfer the points?
How long does that take?
Does delta go non stop when I check skymiles they do not have any award tickets for nonstop?
I so appreciate your help

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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2009, 03:01:58 PM »
Thanks for the info
Which ones have the bonus miles when you transfer point to miles?
Do they hold the ticket while you transfer the points?
How long does that take?
Does delta go non stop when I check skymiles they do not have any award tickets for nonstop?
I so appreciate your help

Nonstops to Israel:
AA Partners with El Al (JFK-TLV, EWR-TLV)
Star Alliance: Continental (EWR-TLV), USAirways (PHL-TLV)
Skyteam: Delta (JFK-TLV, ATL-TLV)

You can transfer Starpoints at 20,000:25,000 to AA.  You need 90,000 to fly on el Al in coach or 130,000 in Business.

You can transfer Starpoints at 20,000:25,000 to ANA (Star Alliance).  You can fly using their 60,000 of their miles in coach on Continental or USAirways.  ANA has told me specifically that there is no fuel surcharge on Continental flights.
You can also transfer Starpoints at 20,000:25,000 to USAirways, which charged 80K in coach and 120K in business.

You can transfer Starpoints at 20,000:25,000 to Flying Blue or Alitalia (Skyteam).  They both charge 50,000 in coach or 80,000 in Business.  You can either fly on them or on Delta.  They both charge fuel surcharges.
Flying Blue also has specials to Israel from varying cities for 25,000 in coach or 50,000 in business, but those won't be published for February until late December.
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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2009, 04:35:33 PM »
dan, i have to give you
credit -that was a real thourough post

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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2009, 05:41:21 PM »
dan, i have to give you
credit -that was a real thourough post

I aim to please  :)
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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2009, 01:12:50 PM »
dan - where does one find the current 25000 mile specials on flying blue, and does it also work if originating in israel?

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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2009, 04:26:13 PM »
Its not the 25% off,

but a bunch of 50% off award trips mileage requirements.

(you will have to stick 2 flights together: usa-europe and europe israel)

http://www.flyingbluenews.com/promotions/spendingmiles/promoawards.html

can be interesting for Rochel too.

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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2009, 08:03:13 PM »
dan - where does one find the current 25000 mile specials on flying blue, and does it also work if originating in israel?
Superflyer has posted the current link good for travel until 11/30.
It does require jumping through some hoops to get them to combine two separate trips to get to TLV.
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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2009, 01:00:29 AM »
Dan, thanks for a very comprehensive reply, it looks like ANA would be my best option for a nonstop flight on continental, would that be only 60000 miles with no fuel charge, sounds too good to be true.

It is available on spgflights for the dates and times that I want,  I was almost going to book that becasue it seemed so easy and I would not have to pay anything. How do I check availabilty through ANA, and is there any downside in going through them?

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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2009, 01:28:35 AM »
Please confirm afterwards that you didnt have to pay fuel suchrarges through ANA!!

Thanks!

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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2009, 01:33:55 AM »
Dan, thanks for a very comprehensive reply, it looks like ANA would be my best option for a nonstop flight on continental, would that be only 60000 miles with no fuel charge, sounds too good to be true.

It is available on spgflights for the dates and times that I want,  I was almost going to book that becasue it seemed so easy and I would not have to pay anything. How do I check availabilty through ANA, and is there any downside in going through them?
You need to open an ANA account and then transfer the points to ANA on spg.com.
When the points transfer you can go to ANA's website to book the flight on CO or just call ANA to book.
For 1 ticket you'll need to transfer 50K SPG for coach or 80K SPG for BusinessFirst.
Personally I'd go for the BusinessFirst and hope for the flat beds!
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Re: ticket to Israel in Feb
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2009, 05:05:39 AM »
IMPORTANT: before transfering, better verify availability.

go for that to https://www.continental.com/web/en-US/apps/booking/flight/searchReward.aspx

Co is pretty new to all this, so I'm not sure how reliable it is (if it shows available then it is for sure available, but if it doesn't whether it means that its really not available)

or

https://www1.aeroplan.com/adr/AirBooking.do?redirect=true

to have a 90% accuracy you will need to search always for return trips (not one ways or open jaws, even if the return does not interest you),

and make sure to search segment by segment (using the specific airport, so NYC will not work, try JFK, EWR, and so on,

for example a NYC-TLV-NYC with Swiss, you will have to search JFK-ZRH-JFK and EWR-ZRH-EWR followed by a ZRH-TLV-ZRH (remembering to change the date as the flight from the USA arrives +1)