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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #240 on: March 03, 2021, 09:35:30 PM »
Stupid question.... does anyone really care who takes/deserves the credit here?
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #241 on: March 03, 2021, 10:36:52 PM »
Stupid question.... does anyone really care who takes/deserves the credit here?

Unfortunately yes. Operation Warp Speed was a smashing success, and Trump gets the credit for that. Vaccination mostly happened under Biden, and while there have been a fair amount of issues the pace and ramp-up have been much better than expected, Biden gets the credit for that.

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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #242 on: March 03, 2021, 10:46:15 PM »
Most of the links you posted are dead.
Fixed
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #243 on: March 03, 2021, 10:49:35 PM »
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #244 on: March 03, 2021, 10:50:10 PM »
Stupid question.... does anyone really care who takes/deserves the credit here?
Apparently there are those who may not care about who gets the credit but care very much about who doesn't.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #245 on: March 03, 2021, 10:58:16 PM »
Oy. I think we need @Jokeovermyhead here
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #246 on: March 03, 2021, 11:02:03 PM »
Still not working.
Copying and pasting the link works, not sure why it doesn't work by clicking.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #247 on: March 03, 2021, 11:03:59 PM »
Unfortunately yes. Operation Warp Speed was a smashing success, and Trump gets the credit for that. Vaccination mostly happened under Biden, and while there have been a fair amount of issues the pace and ramp-up have been much better than expected, Biden gets the credit for that.

Trump washed his hands off vaccination and said it's up to the states.

Biden set up 450 Federal vaccination sites, and more on the way.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #248 on: March 03, 2021, 11:35:00 PM »
Oy. I think we need @Jokeovermyhead here

I need the context for what jokeovermyhead is supposed to do here, not familiar with his twitter. Also I didn't quote the billions post so not like a joke went over my head, please help, @scratchingmyhead

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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #249 on: March 03, 2021, 11:53:45 PM »
I need the context for what jokeovermyhead is supposed to do here, not familiar with his twitter. Also I didn't quote the billions post so not like a joke went over my head, please help, @scratchingmyhead

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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #250 on: March 04, 2021, 12:06:11 AM »
Trump washed his hands off vaccination and said it's up to the states.

Biden set up 450 Federal vaccination sites, and more on the way.

Can’t compare. When Trump left it to the states there were a trickle of doses, now there’s a firehose.

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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #251 on: March 04, 2021, 12:47:05 AM »
Can’t compare. When Trump left it to the states there were a trickle of doses, now there’s a firehose.

Trump was fundamentally opposed to Federal involvement in vaccination.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #252 on: March 04, 2021, 08:34:32 AM »
Trump was fundamentally opposed to Federal involvement in vaccination.
Wait, you mean Trump had ideological opinions?
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #253 on: March 04, 2021, 10:36:05 AM »
Trump was fundamentally opposed to Federal involvement in vaccination.

I wasn’t aware of this. At the end of the day the ramp up would happen sooner or later, stages would get their act together. For example NYC-managed vaccination sites/distribution have become more streamlined and ramped up capacity over time.

Methinks the real test of Biden’s vaccination campaign will be driving demand, meaning getting people to buy in. Endless supply/availability won’t help, if people aren’t interested.

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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #254 on: March 04, 2021, 11:28:32 AM »
Wait, you mean Trump had ideological opinions?
It wasn't ideology, it was laziness. He dumped whatever he could on the states.

 
Methinks the real test of Biden’s vaccination campaign will be driving demand, meaning getting people to buy in. Endless supply/availability won’t help, if people aren’t interested.
87% of non-religious Israelis are already vaccinated. People who are hesitant at first end up taking it.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #255 on: March 04, 2021, 11:32:20 AM »
Italy just seized a shipment of vaccines to Australia
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #256 on: March 04, 2021, 12:23:42 PM »
Italy just seized a shipment of vaccines to Australia

Seized? Linky please?

ETA, this:
https://www.ft.com/content/bed655ac-9285-486a-b5ad-b015284798c8

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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #257 on: March 04, 2021, 12:25:49 PM »
Did you say vaccine causes seizures?
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #258 on: March 04, 2021, 01:16:01 PM »

This is either a testing glitch or a pretty serious problem.

Hopefully they are still protected from serious disease.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #259 on: March 04, 2021, 01:19:42 PM »

This is either a testing glitch or a pretty serious problem.

Hopefully they are still protected from serious disease.
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