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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #540 on: August 31, 2021, 06:38:42 PM »
Not one, but that has little to do with whether it's true and everything to do with self-preservation.

With regards to your Average Joe definition, here are some actual definitions, not Wikipedia word salads:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/average-joe
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/average-joe
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/average+joe
Let me make this easy for you. @ExGingi and I are the only two in a lineup. Pick a random person to pick out the closest to an Average Joe? That was a rhetorical question.
I am done here as I already forgot what the original issue was.  :)
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #541 on: August 31, 2021, 07:05:45 PM »
Ok I googled it. So most of this forum are not average Joe's?
Of course not
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #542 on: August 31, 2021, 07:07:45 PM »
Was trying to figure out how I got pulled into here, and came up with the following question: is a normal Joe the same as the average Joe?

In my dictionary Normal is a four letter word. Highly offended if anyone dare call me that.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #543 on: August 31, 2021, 07:09:42 PM »
I am done here as I already forgot what the original issue was.  :)

I'll help you out: questions about the vaccines are being posed by regular, average people. Mistruths, conspiracies, and quackery are being bought by those same regular, normal, average people. Call them "Average Joes" and "Plain Janes" or Steve and Sarah or whatever you want, the point remains the same.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #544 on: August 31, 2021, 09:01:08 PM »
Was trying to figure out how I got pulled into here,
Wanted someone in the same age group for my example.  :)
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #545 on: September 01, 2021, 09:35:32 AM »
You missed the point. Just because you or I think they are average Joe's does not make it so.

Ah the famous “no true average Joe” fallacy :)
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #546 on: September 01, 2021, 09:37:07 AM »
Ah the famous “no true average Joe” fallacy :)
Didn't hear that "famous" one.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #547 on: September 01, 2021, 09:39:36 AM »
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #551 on: September 23, 2021, 05:45:00 PM »
Pfizer released data from clinical trial for ages 5-11, only 2268 participants (1/3 of which got a placebo). It hasn’t been published or peer reviewed yet, but EUA approval might come as soon as October.

Any of you here going to vaccinate your 5-11 y/o kids as soon as EUA approval is issued? Did Israel say what they plan on doing for children aged 5-11?
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #552 on: September 27, 2021, 07:47:14 AM »
Pfizer released data from clinical trial for ages 5-11, only 2268 participants (1/3 of which got a placebo). It hasn’t been published or peer reviewed yet, but EUA approval might come as soon as October.

Any of you here going to vaccinate your 5-11 y/o kids as soon as EUA approval is issued? Did Israel say what they plan on doing for children aged 5-11?
Sounds like Israel is going to follow FDA EUA - and push it strong. My understanding of the new rules coming into effect next Sunday is tav yarok is only 6 months from last vaccine or PCR+ test (and positive serological test is meaningless)
Not sure what I plan to do.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #553 on: October 01, 2021, 09:49:23 AM »
One of the most prominent anti-COVID-vax doctors in Brooklyn has reversed his stance and is now actively encouraging patients to take the vaccine.

Chief among his reasons for reversal is that hospitals are refusing monoclonal treatment to the unvaccinated. Previously he believed that monoclonal antibodies carried less risk with similar reward, but the equation has now changed.

Right or wrong, it appears hospitals offering better service to the vaccinated has caused more people to become vaccinated.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #554 on: October 01, 2021, 01:37:20 PM »

...hospitals are refusing monoclonal treatment to the unvaccinated

...hospitals offering better service to the vaccinated has caused more people to become vaccinated.

Has anyone been able to corroborate this?
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #555 on: February 11, 2022, 03:11:54 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-kids-fda-authorization-postponed-rcna15730

BH, some sanity in the process. Would have been a really scary precedent otherwise.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #556 on: February 12, 2022, 08:28:45 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-kids-fda-authorization-postponed-rcna15730

BH, some sanity in the process. Would have been a really scary precedent otherwise.
I don't understand the Havah Amina. Why would they approve something that wasn't tested to work, especially when a 2 dose version didn't work. If there was a true emergency, I would kind of understand, but with the risk level to under 5 year olds so low, it would be a real head scratcher and be a real blotch on the FDA's reputation.

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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #557 on: February 12, 2022, 08:49:06 PM »
I don't understand the Havah Amina. Why would they approve something that wasn't tested to work, especially when a 2 dose version didn't work. If there was a true emergency, I would kind of understand, but with the risk level to under 5 year olds so low, it would be a real head scratcher and be a real blotch on the FDA's reputation.
It really made me angry. Glad to see saner heads prevailing.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #558 on: February 12, 2022, 09:13:10 PM »
It really made me angry. Glad to see saner heads prevailing.

The tides are turning globally on COVID, but domestically the vaccine wars will cause mandates and proof-of-vaccination requirements to linger for as long as the Democrats can prolong them, even as they fade in other countries.
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