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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #180 on: January 07, 2021, 02:37:33 PM »
Its Richard Branson!
You may not agree with him, but you have to admit, he is taking a stand!
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #181 on: January 07, 2021, 02:42:27 PM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1

Clickbait-ish headline, but the quotes from outside security officials were interesting to me.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #182 on: January 07, 2021, 02:44:13 PM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1

Clickbait-ish headline, but the quotes from outside security officials were interesting to me.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #183 on: January 07, 2021, 02:53:46 PM »
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #184 on: January 07, 2021, 02:54:56 PM »
This is purely anecdotal, but the Trump supporters I know, which includes people who traveled to DC to protest yesterday, are disgusted by what happened yesterday and are not behind him at all.
That's kinda my point. Right now his support is way down. Let him just die away.

I believe impeaching him now will generally be seen as "we finally got the bad orange man," and "the four-year coup attempt finally succeeded" and will only reinvigorate support for Trump.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #185 on: January 07, 2021, 02:56:20 PM »
Pelosi says Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund hasn’t called her since the events of yesterday.
Calls for his resignation.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #186 on: January 07, 2021, 02:57:34 PM »
That's kinda my point. Right now his support is way down. Let him just die away.

I believe impeaching him now will generally be seen as "we finally got the bad orange man," and "the four-year coup attempt finally succeeded" and will only reinvigorate support for Trump.
What exactly is that thought progression?

1. Trump deserves my support
2. Trump acted bad yesterday so now he doesn't deserve my support
3. People are picking on him so now he does deserve my support

Is that it?

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #187 on: January 07, 2021, 03:01:29 PM »
That's kinda my point. Right now his support is way down. Let him just die away.

I believe impeaching him now will generally be seen as "we finally got the bad orange man," and "the four-year coup attempt finally succeeded" and will only reinvigorate support for Trump.

Impeaching him prevents him from running again. I don't think "ignoring" it will let his support die away. If he can and does run again, those supporters will be back as vociferous as before.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #188 on: January 07, 2021, 03:02:06 PM »
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #189 on: January 07, 2021, 03:02:15 PM »
What exactly is that thought progression?

1. Trump is a bad guy but the other guys are worse so he deserves my support.
2. Trump acted bad yesterday and is now worse than the other guys so now he doesn't deserve my support
3. The other guys are worse again so he does deserve my support

Something like this (and no, I'm not saying that this is what I think).

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #190 on: January 07, 2021, 03:03:19 PM »
What exactly is that thought progression?

1. Trump deserves my support
2. Trump acted bad yesterday so now he doesn't deserve my support
3. People are picking on him so now he does deserve my support

Is that it?

1. The system is rigged. Trump is the only one that can stand up to it.
2. Trump acted bad yesterday, I can't support THAT.
3. See how rigged it is? What happened yesterday wasn't THAT bad.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #192 on: January 07, 2021, 03:09:35 PM »
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #193 on: January 07, 2021, 03:11:44 PM »
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #194 on: January 07, 2021, 03:14:38 PM »
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #195 on: January 07, 2021, 03:16:04 PM »
https://twitter.com/daniellamicaela/status/1347266390626066434?s=21

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Pros/cons either way for Pence? Wouldn’t it be cool to be president for a week or two?
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #196 on: January 07, 2021, 03:17:57 PM »

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #197 on: January 07, 2021, 03:18:34 PM »
Pros/cons either way for Pence? Wouldn’t it be cool to be president for a week or two?
Would have been nice to have him for 4 years. I wonder who else could have managed Trump for 4 years?

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Re: Civil War?
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #199 on: January 07, 2021, 04:04:39 PM »
Pros/cons either way for Pence? Wouldn’t it be cool to be president for a week or two?
My very-much-non-conspiracy-theorist mother suggested that Trump's behavior yesterday was an attempt to act obviously insane, so that the 25th amendment would be used to replace him with Pence, who would then give Trump what he couldn't give himself - a Presidential Pardon.