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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #240 on: January 07, 2021, 11:26:23 PM »
I know people around here don’t like to spoon feed but I’ll ask anyways.
Can someone please explain very clearly why Trump is at fault for what happened yesterday?
Is it from the rhetoric from the last 5 yrs?
Is it because he called for wild protests?
 Did he say other things in the last few days?
And why are they trying to remove Senator Hawley from office?

I understand that Trump called for a rally and it got out of hand, but I think I’m missing a little on the severity of what he did.


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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #241 on: January 07, 2021, 11:37:01 PM »
I know people around here don’t like to spoon feed but I’ll ask anyways.
Can someone please explain very clearly why Trump is at fault for what happened yesterday?
Is it from the rhetoric from the last 5 yrs?
Is it because he called for wild protests?
 Did he say other things in the last few days?
And why are they trying to remove Senator Hawley from office?

I understand that Trump called for a rally and it got out of hand, but I think I’m missing a little on the severity of what he did.

I guess we can start with: why did Trump call for a rally in D.C.? For what purpose?

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #242 on: January 08, 2021, 12:01:43 AM »
I guess we can start with: why did Trump call for a rally in D.C.? For what purpose?
Not sure what your trying to get at, are you trying to say that Trump specifically wanted them to take over the capitol?

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #243 on: January 08, 2021, 12:08:14 AM »
Not sure what your trying to get at, are you trying to say that Trump specifically wanted them to take over the capitol?
Trump all but called for physical interference with Congress then relished in it and betrayed his sworn duty to attempt to disperse it for the first few hours. BH our democracy is strong enough that he ultimately changed course.

Also, calling for illegitimate vote actions by Pence, Raffensberger, and others cab be sedition and other interference counts.

There is good reason Trump reversed course, cancelled many outstanding court cases, and released that video today and DOJ is investigating him personally.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #244 on: January 08, 2021, 12:32:38 AM »
I could be wrong but I don’t think most people went there thinking there would be violence, I thought it wouldn’t be any different than any of his others rallies.
The question of if pence had power to send it back to the states or not, from what I heard it’s debatable.
What’s the DOJ investigating him for?

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #245 on: January 08, 2021, 12:35:03 AM »
Ted Cruz now calling it a terrorist attack now.

I could be wrong but I don’t think most people went there thinking there would be violence, I thought it wouldn’t be any different than any of his others rallies.
The question of if pence had power to send it back to the states or not, from what I heard it’s debatable.
What’s the DOJ investigating him for?
That's part of the problem, Trump instigated the high temperatures by feeding you (and people you listen to) these anti-consituititnal theories. That can be sedition.

I'm sure one thing the DOJ will be checking is if Trump had direct advance intel knowledge of potential violence. This was discussed openly on far right/neo nazi social media. Bill Barr resigned for a reason.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #246 on: January 08, 2021, 12:36:53 AM »
Who are the terrorists that he’s referring to?

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #247 on: January 08, 2021, 12:38:29 AM »
Who are the terrorists that he’s referring to?
Seriously? Those who stormed the highest seat of the US government and delayed its vote proceedings. Imagine Trump ordered a nuclear attack on Iran and somebody breaks into the military base and disrupts the operation? This was worse.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #248 on: January 08, 2021, 12:41:38 AM »
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #249 on: January 08, 2021, 12:46:15 AM »
https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1347400314102706178?s=21
Reminds me of the story of the boy who cried wolf
These people have lost their chance to say anything on Trump. I tune out the second  they start talking. People like Cruz on the other hand...

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #250 on: January 08, 2021, 12:49:45 AM »
Reminds me of the story of the boy who cried wolf
These people have lost their chance to say anything on Trump. I tune out the second  they start talking. People like Cruz on the other hand...
Good thing you have multiple sitting Republican State Governors and many other ex-officials calling for invocation of the 25th Amendment. Not so good that you have Pence not answering the phone to the Speaker of the House.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #251 on: January 08, 2021, 12:52:48 AM »
Good thing you have multiple sitting Republican State Governors and many other ex-officials calling for invocation of the 25th Amendment. Not so good that you have Pence not answering the phone to the Speaker of the House.
Maybe pence knows that story too

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #252 on: January 08, 2021, 02:19:19 AM »
https://twitter.com/gracespelman/status/1347240832248795136?s=21


Maybe pence knows that story too
Except Pelosi is the head of a co-equal branch of government that Pence answers to. Imagine if Pelosi would be refusing to take Trumps calls
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #253 on: January 08, 2021, 02:52:35 AM »
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« Reply #254 on: January 08, 2021, 03:30:39 AM »

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #255 on: January 08, 2021, 03:45:14 AM »
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #256 on: January 08, 2021, 08:05:45 AM »
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For those who who wish to avoid watching it, the shooting is at the 35 minute mark.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #257 on: January 08, 2021, 09:00:47 AM »
Imagine if Pelosi would be refusing to take Trumps calls

Which planet have you been on?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #259 on: January 08, 2021, 09:36:11 AM »

Except Pelosi is the head of a co-equal branch of government that Pence answers to. Imagine if Pelosi would be refusing to take Trumps calls

It's like the past 12 years don't even exist