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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #460 on: January 21, 2021, 12:29:15 PM »
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Why in the world are people here defending white supremacists. They are the ones who did that stuff.

That what over the past 5 years the label white supremacist has effectively meant "somebody who disagrees with the leftists agenda," or "anybody who supports DJT" might have something to do with it...

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #461 on: January 21, 2021, 12:49:59 PM »
That what over the past 5 years the label white supremacist has effectively meant "somebody who disagrees with the leftists agenda," or "anybody who supports DJT" might have something to do with it...
Do you hear yourself? Is there nothing you won't defend just to 'own the libs'? It's okay to use nuance in your arguments/worldview. The world is not black/white, left/right.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #462 on: January 21, 2021, 12:54:38 PM »
That what over the past 5 years the label white supremacist has effectively meant "somebody who disagrees with the leftists agenda," or "anybody who supports DJT" might have something to do with it...

Yes and that's because of the silent majority. People who supported Trump and continued to support him even as his vocal base threw away any pretenses of decency. Not once did the silent majority stand up and say we are supporting Trump for x,y, and z and do not want to be lumped together with the racists.

They made their bed and now are lying in it. If you're in this group get out nos

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #463 on: January 21, 2021, 12:56:53 PM »
That what over the past 5 years the label white supremacist has effectively meant "somebody who disagrees with the leftists agenda," or "anybody who supports DJT" might have something to do with it...
And here I always thought you were smarter than to support neo-nazis just because some rag you label as fake news dumps you together.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #464 on: January 21, 2021, 01:21:33 PM »
Do you hear yourself? Is there nothing you won't defend just to 'own the libs'? It's okay to use nuance in your arguments/worldview. The world is not black/white, left/right.
Who did I defend?

He asked a question and I gave a possible answer.

To be fair, I haven't seen anyone defending white supremacists, I was taking a guess at a possible explanation.

I don't know what you thought I was saying, so I'll spell it out more clearly. For the past five years anyone who supported DJT -or even those generally opposed to DJT but against the far left agenda- have been labeled white supremacists. So therefore it's very possible that somebody defending them is unaware that they're actual white supremacists, not just Trump supporters.

But on to the actual argument here, am I misunderstanding or are you guys saying that somebody who agrees with what was done (And I haven't actually seen that here, at least not after the first hours when nobody really knew yet what was actually going down, but I'll trust you guys that it's here) should condemn it simply because of who did it? So basically if someone is a bad person then anything they participate in must automatically be condemned.
But I'm the one who can't use nuance here.  ::)

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #465 on: January 21, 2021, 01:23:36 PM »
And here I always thought you were smarter than to support neo-nazis just because some rag you label as fake news dumps you together.
As I said in previous post. I'm not supporting neo-Nazis, I'm simply suggesting that somebody who is supporting them might be thinking that just like he's being falsely accused of being a neo-Nazi, so are these guys.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #466 on: January 21, 2021, 01:26:30 PM »
Yes and that's because of the silent majority. People who supported Trump and continued to support him even as his vocal base threw away any pretenses of decency. Not once did the silent majority stand up and say we are supporting Trump for x,y, and z and do not want to be lumped together with the racists.

They made their bed and now are lying in it. If you're in this group get out nos
This post is so blatantly wrong and false that I can't decide if it calls for being totally ignored or for a @Yehuda57-esque rant in response.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #467 on: January 21, 2021, 01:30:22 PM »
This post is so blatantly wrong and false that I can't decide if it calls for being totally ignored or for a @Yehuda57-esque rant in response.

I mean, there are literally hundreds of such posts on this forum alone, so yeah, what will one more help?

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #468 on: January 21, 2021, 02:00:47 PM »
So basically if someone is a bad person then anything they participate in must automatically be condemned.

Also, if someone is a bad person they must have done everything that they are accused of doing, regardless of the lack of (or contrary) evidence.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #469 on: January 21, 2021, 02:08:07 PM »
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Why in the world are people here defending white supremacists. They are the ones who did that stuff.
Was your account hacked by CM or did you run out of koolaid?

WaPo's obsession with trying to overdramatize this lousy 'coup' has nothing to do with white supremacists. I'm sure you can finish my thought without much effort.

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #470 on: February 18, 2021, 07:58:18 PM »
I noticed that too!
They missed Rule #38: Stay on good terms with your ex-spouse.

Thought of this post again. https://twitter.com/alexmleo/status/1362565949669445632

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1362549817164001285
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #472 on: February 20, 2021, 11:47:13 PM »
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1362885783493959680

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1362860358789197829

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without getting into the nitty gritty legals, the more they planned, the tougher to pin on him

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #473 on: February 20, 2021, 11:55:03 PM »
without getting into the nitty gritty legals, the more they planned, the tougher to pin on him

The more they planned it for days and weeks, the harder it is to pin it on anything Trump did on January 6th.

I should add, that I think these people should be persecuted to the full extent of the law, but I don’t think that has anything to do with Trump.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #474 on: February 20, 2021, 11:58:32 PM »
The more they planned it for days and weeks, the harder it is to pin it on anything Trump did on January 6th.

I should add, that I think these people should be persecuted to the full extent of the law, but I don’t think that has anything to do with Trump.
It definitely has to do with Trump and the Big Lie but not his Jan 6th speech.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #475 on: February 21, 2021, 12:01:43 AM »
It definitely has to do with Trump and the Big Lie but not his Jan 6th speech.

Et tu?

For the love of humanity, can you stop using the phrase The Big Lie?

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #476 on: February 21, 2021, 12:02:44 AM »
It definitely has to do with Trump and the Big Lie but not his Jan 6th speech.
Some people having planned before Jan 6 doesn't mean other participants weren't incited on Jan 6.

And of course the Big Lie is an accurate and appropriate term.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #477 on: February 21, 2021, 12:03:07 AM »
Et tu?
What term would you prefer?

ETA: Genuinely didn’t know the origin of the term, just found out. You’re right, it is probably wrong to use it in this instance.
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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #478 on: February 21, 2021, 12:05:32 AM »
What term would you prefer?

Anything that doesn't invoke Nazism or Nazi crimes to describe a modem day crime

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Re: Civil War?
« Reply #479 on: February 21, 2021, 12:06:27 AM »
Anything that doesn't invoke Nazism or Nazi crimes to describe a modem day crime
It does not invoke Nazism or nazi crimes.
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