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Does DDF need a politics board?

Yes, it's long overdue
34 (57.6%)
Maybe, let's wait another month to see if things settle down
7 (11.9%)
No, it's just fine in JS
18 (30.5%)

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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2021, 11:45:04 AM »
It ay be easier to start a Non Political board.

When do the polls close, and what about mail-in ballots.
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2021, 11:47:11 AM »
If it's reversible and doesn't take too much time. Why not try?

It'll be like the responsive design trial.
It's against DDF philosophy :P
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2021, 11:54:53 AM »
Problem is that political threads are often name calling, eye rolling, one-liners like "You would say that", or "Every frum  yid agrees that...", without presentation of ideas, perspectives, evidence.  So in that sense the political threads are a kind of fake discussion, not that different from the other joke threads in JS, and might as well remain there.

But maybe there's a place for a more reasoned exchange of ideas, on topics that include politics, frum society, education, science, and the like. 

In fact, maybe this should be more than a new board, but a whole new website, which would make it easier to read without those bothersome posts about points, miles and deals.  This could be a new business for Dan, and require a slew of new credit cards.

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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2021, 12:22:16 PM »
Is there such a thing as sub-boards, like withing JS?

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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2021, 12:57:35 PM »
Is there such a thing as sub-boards, like withing JS?
Yes. The way it's setup now is, everything is under the category "DansDeals Forum", that's why on the main page it can be minimized individually.

That's also why it shows a sub-category of DansDeals Forum


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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2021, 02:25:39 PM »
Yes. The way it's setup now is, everything is under the category "DansDeals Forum", that's why on the main page it can be minimized individually.

That's also why it shows a sub-category of DansDeals Forum


I personally find this annoying. Could be confusing if you minimize it and can’t figure out where everything disappeared to.
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2021, 02:43:03 PM »
So in that sense the political threads are a kind of fake discussion, not that different from the other joke threads in JS, and might as well remain there.
The problem is not that "politics is too good for JS" it's that "politics is too bad for JS" because it's not "to kick back and talk about anything worthless." it's too stressful for that. That is not to say that I don't read the politics threads but sometimes I come to JS to chill, and these politics threads are just there in the way.
Small people talk about other people.
Average people talk about things
BIG PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS.

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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2021, 02:57:01 PM »
I personally find this annoying. Could be confusing if you minimize it and can’t figure out where everything disappeared to.
+1
It should easily be switched into 3 categories.

(Perhaps deals, trips and other)
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2021, 02:59:17 PM »
+1
It should easily be switched into 3 categories.

(Perhaps deals, trips and other)
Except that's not what he's saying. Read it again.
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2021, 03:03:21 PM »
#makejsgreatagain
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2021, 03:07:38 PM »
The problem is not that "politics is too good for JS" it's that "politics is too bad for JS" because it's not "to kick back and talk about anything worthless." it's too stressful for that. That is not to say that I don't read the politics threads but sometimes I come to JS to chill, and these politics threads are just there in the way.
Oh, I see what you're saying.  Politics doesn't even appear in the Master Thread of JS.  Maybe politics deserves a separate Mistress Thread on JS? 
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2021, 03:16:35 PM »
As I said a while ago
This has probably been requested many times before, but I'll ask again.
Can we please have a politics board separate from JS, and posts won't either count there?
It's really annoying to step over all the politics threads.
Maybe @Yo ssi can start a poll to get an idea if people are interested in this
And I guess the last sentence got an upgrade :)

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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2021, 03:21:48 PM »
Except that's not what he's saying. Read it again.
It's direct result of the improper category structure. Take a look at any other smf :)

(Simply renaming it to boards, will greatly clarify things and make it much more understandable to the new user)
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2021, 03:37:34 PM »
It's direct result of the improper category structure. Take a look at any other smf :)

(Simply renaming it to boards, will greatly clarify things and make it much more understandable to the new user)
He's talking about the - sign that leads to a thread several times a year asking where DDF went.
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2021, 04:28:11 PM »
He's talking about the - sign that leads to a thread several times a year asking where DDF went.
Which that confusion I believe would be mostly gone, if the category structure was set up properly.

For example: If there was 3-4 categories set up, minimizing one you'd clearly understand what happened, being that rest would still be open. It's about UX.
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2021, 04:29:20 PM »
Which that confusion I believe would be mostly gone, if the category structure was set up properly.

For example: If there was 3-4 categories set up, minimizing one you'd clearly understand what happened, being that rest would still be open. It's about UX.
No, you would just have people asking what happened to X board.
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2021, 04:31:50 PM »
No, you would just have people asking what happened to X board.
I'm willing to wager ;)
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2021, 04:38:24 PM »
Tell me it isn't obvious which category is closed!




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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2021, 05:43:33 PM »
Tell me it isn't obvious which category is closed!




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And which categories do you want to see? Don't see how you do just 3.
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Re: Does DDF need a politics board?
« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2021, 07:34:56 PM »
And which categories do you want to see? Don't see how you do just 3.
To get three you can do 1. Travel 2. Deals / Goods 3. Other

Or perhaps more realistically into four, replacing other with 3. General discussion and 4. Relaxing zone

And again:

(Simply renaming it to boards, will greatly clarify things and make it much more understandable to the new user)
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