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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #560 on: March 19, 2023, 10:14:15 AM »
(excluding smaller, local elections where corruption is not necessarily required).
I wonder why you put in this disclaimer, NOT!!!

The most corrupt politicians as you put it are those in local elections like school boards.
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #561 on: March 19, 2023, 10:36:05 AM »
The right is going nuts over Trumps announcement. I guess they won't be happy unless there is more violence, and many more police officers are injured and or die.
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #562 on: March 19, 2023, 10:43:13 AM »
Where is the outrage over this nutcase?

Speaker McCarthy Threatens Federal Probe If Trump Arrested—Pence, Greene, Graham, More Blast Prosecutors
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/speaker-mccarthy-threatens-federal-probe-if-trump-arrested-pence-greene-graham-more-blast-prosecutors/ar-AA18NbzQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b4d520a1c73e4e00b4b4af53412ad180&ei=105
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #563 on: March 19, 2023, 10:43:45 AM »
I wonder why you put in this disclaimer, NOT!!!

The most corrupt politicians as you put it are those in local elections like school boards.
I strongly disagree. The smaller elections are the only ones where you don't necessarily need major financing.
That said, even in these smaller elections, I'm sure many is not most of these politicians are real politicians (and very corrupt). My point here was that it's conceivable to say that a polititian elected in a smaller election is not corrupt.
Which senator/governor/president from this century that you have ever mentioned was not corrupt?

ETA: to clarify, my disagreement is with your premise that since the most corrupt politicians are on the school boards, every single small town politician or school board politician is corrupt.
I'm willing to accept that perhaps the most corrupt pols are on school boards - that doesn't contradict anything that I said.
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #564 on: March 19, 2023, 10:45:04 AM »

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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #565 on: March 19, 2023, 10:49:09 AM »
It would only come from the left.
It will come from the I's to and that is what matters.
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #566 on: March 19, 2023, 10:53:26 AM »
I strongly disagree. The smaller elections are the only ones where you don't necessarily need major financing.
That said, even in these smaller elections, I'm sure many is not most of these politicians are real politicians (and very corrupt). My point here was that it's conceivable to say that a polititian elected in a smaller election is not corrupt.
Which senator/governor/president from this century that you have ever mentioned was not corrupt?
Many politicians are decent people. I personally do not like Mitch McConnell policies but would not say he isn't a decent person.

This logic (all politicians) is the way many can justify to themselves for voting for a scumbag like Trump.
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #567 on: March 19, 2023, 11:13:26 AM »
Trump was a piece of garbage before he went into the garbage can known as high profile politics. Many others probably started off idealistic and got corrupted through the system. Many of them likely are still idealistic and don't realize how corrupted they are. Many people think that the ability to cancel and eliminate someone you don't like, the military industrial complex that is big government and big business/big tech, and the nanny state are much bigger threats to democracy and our country than Trump poses, as big of a dirtbag as he may be.


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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #568 on: March 19, 2023, 11:43:58 AM »
Many politicians are decent people. I personally do not like Mitch McConnell policies but would not say he isn't a decent person
I don't know Mitch and he may actually be decent. But I would not assume that about any politician. Unless you can fully fund your way into and through politics, you either don't last or become corrupt. It's not possible to make it otherwise.
Even if you can fully fund your way through politics, I don't know how much progress you can make without making friends with other politicians. Since the other politicians are corrupt, it'll mean quid pro quo and you would need to compromise on your ideals. That would be the beginning of the road to corruption. It might take a bit longer to get there, but I don't believe there are any politicians out there that are not corrupt. It's essential to realize this. If you think otherwise - unless you have done extensive research and can prove otherwise - the koolaid is coming out of your ears.
(Just my opinion)

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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #569 on: March 19, 2023, 11:44:17 AM »
Where is the outrage over this nutcase?

Speaker McCarthy Threatens Federal Probe If Trump Arrested—Pence, Greene, Graham, More Blast Prosecutors
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/speaker-mccarthy-threatens-federal-probe-if-trump-arrested-pence-greene-graham-more-blast-prosecutors/ar-AA18NbzQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b4d520a1c73e4e00b4b4af53412ad180&ei=105

Either politically motivated investigations are fine, or they are not. Vance seems to think they are fine, so what is good for the goose...

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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #570 on: March 19, 2023, 11:48:55 AM »
I don't know Mitch and he may actually be decent. But I would not assume that about any politician. Unless you can fully fund your way into and through politics, you either don't last or become corrupt. It's not possible to make it otherwise.
Even if you can fully fund your way through politics, I don't know how much progress you can make without making friends with other politicians. Since the other politicians are corrupt, it'll mean quid pro quo and you would need to compromise on your ideals. That would be the beginning of the road to corruption. It might take a bit longer to get there, but I don't believe there are any politicians out there that are not corrupt. It's essential to realize this. If you think otherwise - unless you have done extensive research and can prove otherwise - the koolaid is coming out of your ears.
(Just my opinion)
So you are saying they are corrupt or not decent without any evidence and I am drinking the Kool-Aid.  ::)
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #571 on: March 19, 2023, 01:27:16 PM »
After years we have a nothing burger. They have been humiliated in court.
How would you know if primary Mandate was a report which was not yet released? The goal was not criminal prosecution.
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #572 on: March 19, 2023, 01:32:08 PM »
How would you know if primary Mandate was a report which was not yet released?
It has been years and it has been a bust. The court cases were a major loss and embarrassment.
Now compare that to the so-called witch hunt which yielded many high-level convictions.
It is not Durham's fault as there was no there there!!!
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #573 on: March 19, 2023, 01:42:01 PM »
So you are saying they are corrupt or not decent without any evidence and I am drinking the Kool-Aid.  ::)
I'm saying politicians are corrupt unless proven otherwise.
They have a chazaka.

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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #574 on: March 19, 2023, 01:46:17 PM »
They have a chazaka.
You are making the accusation. Where is your proof?
I'm saying politicians are corrupt unless proven otherwise.
...and that is:


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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #575 on: March 19, 2023, 01:51:25 PM »
You are making the accusation. Where is your proof?
My theory was already given above. That, along with recent history is enough for me. If you think it's possible to be a politician and go places in politics without compromising your morals, that's nice. I won't try to convince you otherwise. Enjoy your thoughts. :)
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #576 on: March 19, 2023, 01:55:40 PM »
My theory was already given above. That, asking with recent history is enough for me. If you think it's possible to be a politician and go places in politics without compromising your morals, that's nice. I won't try to convince you otherwise. Enjoy your thoughts. :)
I understand your theory but that is crazy to say all anything is corrupt without any proof.
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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #577 on: March 19, 2023, 02:00:00 PM »
I understand your theory but that is crazy to say all anything is corrupt without any proof.

I hear your theory. I still don't see how a politician can make it without corruption. Call me crazy, that's expected anyway since we're on opposite sides of the aisle. :)

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Re: What comes next for Donald Trump?
« Reply #578 on: March 19, 2023, 02:01:42 PM »
I hear your theory. I still don't see how a politician can make it without corruption. Call me crazy, that's expected anyway since we're on opposite sides of the aisle. :)
I have no theory on this that is why I am asking for proof.
I am not in any aisle or is that another one of your theories?  :)
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