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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2021, 01:43:19 PM »
You're making this very black and white, and it's just not. Bernie has a different approach to it than someone like Yang for example - which if I had to guess is actually the politician @yos9694 supports.

Much closer to Yang. I find it problematic though that in this country believing in individual issues necessitates blindly buying into every other idea that a political party or politician has

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2021, 01:44:09 PM »
Much closer to Yang. I find it problematic though that in this country believing in individual issues necessitates blindly buying into every other idea that a political party or politician has
This is the problem with political parties

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2021, 02:20:31 PM »
This is the problem with political parties
Exactly. Everything is politics when there are parties.

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2021, 02:21:40 PM »
Exactly. Everything is politics when there are parties.

So without parties politics isn't political?

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2021, 02:22:09 PM »
So without parties politics isn't political?
Not everything is politics.

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2021, 02:22:32 PM »
All kidding aside I do think there are problems with the two party system we should be trying to fix.

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2021, 02:55:43 PM »
All kidding aside I do think there are problems with the two party system we should be trying to fix.

In the near future the Democratic party will likely split into two, the more moderate Dems forming one party and the more radical ones forming another- with the voter base roughly split across age groups. This will happen as the Republican party becomes more of a Repugnant party and normal people can no longer associate themselves with it.

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2021, 03:07:12 PM »
In the near future the Democratic party will likely split into two, the more moderate Dems forming one party and the more radical ones forming another- with the voter base roughly split across age groups.
Possibly. Or the Republican party will split in two. The middle party will remain the same either way. Burt I don't think either 9f these would resolve many of the two party system's issues. One of those three will quickly become irrelevant and we'll be left with two parties.

The issue with a two party system is that the parties adapt to whatever roughly half of the country wants. That means that in order to vote on an issue that's important to me I have to vote for a party that also has other agenda items.

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2021, 03:08:00 PM »
In the near future the Democratic party will likely split into two, the more moderate Dems forming one party and the more radical ones forming another- with the voter base roughly split across age groups. This will happen as the Republican party becomes more of a Repugnant party and normal people can no longer associate themselves with it.
The Republican Party becomes repugnant but the democrat party splits?
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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2021, 04:07:06 PM »
Much closer to Yang. I find it problematic though that in this country believing in individual issues necessitates blindly buying into every other idea that a political party or politician has

It has nothing to do with this country. It is a global phenomenon which is a symptom of קטנות המוחין.
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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2021, 04:23:27 PM »
It has nothing to do with this country. It is a global phenomenon which is a symptom of קטנות המוחין.
A system with more parties allows for more specialized parties. People would be able to vote for the party that most resembles what they want. Obviously, parties would have to work together but that's compromise not voting directly for policies I don't want.

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2021, 06:16:54 PM »
The Republican Party becomes repugnant but the democrat party splits?

That's one man's opinion is all and maybe more of a hope than a prediction. A moderate version of the Democrats becoming our new right wing is something I could live with. BTW, in most first world countries their right is already that or even further to the left.

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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2021, 07:09:04 PM »
That's one man's opinion is all and maybe more of a hope than a prediction. A moderate version of the Democrats becoming our new right wing is something I could live with. BTW, in most first world countries their right is already that or even further to the left.
I agree I just think it will be the Republican Party that splinters
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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2021, 08:32:17 PM »
A system with more parties allows for more specialized parties. People would be able to vote for the party that most resembles what they want. Obviously, parties would have to work together but that's compromise not voting directly for policies I don't want.

Parties, by definition, are designed to abuse קטנות המוחין of the masses.
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Re: Predictions For What The Ds Will Do In Full Control Of DC?
« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2021, 06:42:34 PM »
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