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Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« on: January 12, 2021, 09:51:40 PM »
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2021, 09:56:20 PM »
Omits any mention of his views on impeachment.

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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2021, 10:02:36 PM »
Omits the word 'Trump'
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2021, 10:04:45 PM »
Wow so now we know what he didn't write
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2021, 10:09:01 PM »
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2021, 10:13:43 PM »
And another thing he didn't write... ;)

Pence agrees with Pelosi that the only basis for invoking the 25th would be a medical decision, so one would expect this to segue into a discussion of the President's medical condition, or how Pence will evaluate that.

There have been several medical professionals who have (at a distance) suggested that he may be mentally unfit to serve.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/01/trump-is-mentally-unwell-and-everyone-around-him-knows-it.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dangerous_Case_of_Donald_Trump
https://doctorzebra.com/prez/z_x45_trump_mental_health_g.htm
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/health/trump-mental-health-exam/index.html

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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2021, 10:19:02 PM »
And another thing he didn't write... ;)

Pence agrees with Pelosi that the only basis for invoking the 25th would be a medical decision, so one would expect this to segue into a discussion of the President's medical condition, or how Pence will evaluate that.

There have been several medical professionals who have (at a distance) suggested that he may be mentally unfit to serve.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/01/trump-is-mentally-unwell-and-everyone-around-him-knows-it.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dangerous_Case_of_Donald_Trump
https://doctorzebra.com/prez/z_x45_trump_mental_health_g.htm
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/health/trump-mental-health-exam/index.html
It's a PR paper from a coward who didn't grow a backbone until his boss asked him to cancel the Republic, and even then did so as quietly as humanly possible. Even Mitch McConnell gave a more remarkable speech on that day.

Sure, it's better than nothing, but imagine what kind of speech Pence can give now to the world if he only had an ounce of courage?

Pence is a political skeleton, MAGAs will say he's a traitor, the rest of the party will see him tainted by association.
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2021, 10:27:26 PM »


And another thing he didn't write... ;)

Pence agrees with Pelosi that the only basis for invoking the 25th would be a medical decision, so one would expect this to segue into a discussion of the President's medical condition, or how Pence will evaluate that.

There have been several medical professionals who have (at a distance) suggested that he may be mentally unfit to serve.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/01/trump-is-mentally-unwell-and-everyone-around-him-knows-it.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dangerous_Case_of_Donald_Trump
https://doctorzebra.com/prez/z_x45_trump_mental_health_g.htm
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/health/trump-mental-health-exam/index.html

You can also find dozens of doctors that say Biden is unfit to serve.

It's a PR paper from a coward who didn't grow a backbone until his boss asked him to cancel the Republic, and even then did so as quietly as humanly possible. Even Mitch McConnell gave a more remarkable speech on that day.

Sure, it's better than nothing, but imagine what kind of speech Pence can give now to the world if he only had an ounce of courage?

Pence is a political skeleton, MAGAs will say he's a traitor, the rest of the party will see him tainted by association.

And again, President elect Biden is also a spineless pawn following the orders of political correctness and MSM.

I don't find Pence a traitor or tainted by association, so I figure I fall in that Grand Canyon size gap of people that you can't imagine exist because twitter doesn't tell you that they exist.
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2021, 10:33:54 PM »
I don't find Pence a traitor or tainted by association, so I figure I fall in that Grand Canyon size gap of people that you can't imagine exist because twitter doesn't tell you that they exist.
And since you can't fathom there are people that don't think like you and your roommates, you aren't realizing the Grand Canyon size group of people can't win an election.

25% of GOP blame Trump for the events at the Capitol, nobody associated with him can win an election.
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2021, 10:36:09 PM »

You can also find dozens of doctors that say Biden is unfit to serve.
Source?

And again, President elect Biden is also a spineless pawn following the orders of political correctness and MSM.

I don't find Pence a traitor or tainted by association, so I figure I fall in that Grand Canyon size gap of people that you can't imagine exist because twitter doesn't tell you that they exist.

I don't think Pence is a traitor either. I just think he's a spineless showpiece. But I thought that for the last four years already.

Also, most of what you seem to be calling political correctness used to just be called politeness. Whenever you wonder what happened to basic politeness, remind yourself, some people rebranded it as PC and decided it's a bad thing.

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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2021, 10:42:03 PM »
The point isn't whether or not Pence is objectively a traitor. The problem is there is a sizable portion of the GOP base that subjectively considers Trump a traitor, and Pence is tainted by association. There is no way they will put him up for office again.
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2021, 10:49:41 PM »
And another thing he didn't write... ;)

Pence agrees with Pelosi that the only basis for invoking the 25th would be a medical decision, so one would expect this to segue into a discussion of the President's medical condition, or how Pence will evaluate that.

There have been several medical professionals who have (at a distance) suggested that he may be mentally unfit to serve.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/01/trump-is-mentally-unwell-and-everyone-around-him-knows-it.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dangerous_Case_of_Donald_Trump
https://doctorzebra.com/prez/z_x45_trump_mental_health_g.htm
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/health/trump-mental-health-exam/index.html
Any "doctor" who will write these articles at a distance needs to be questioned about his toughness to practice medicine.
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2021, 10:50:15 PM »
It's a PR paper from a coward who didn't grow a backbone until his boss asked him to cancel the Republic, and even then did so as quietly as humanly possible. Even Mitch McConnell gave a more remarkable speech on that day.

Sure, it's better than nothing, but imagine what kind of speech Pence can give now to the world if he only had an ounce of courage?

Pence is a political skeleton, MAGAs will say he's a traitor, the rest of the party will see him tainted by association.
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2021, 10:51:12 PM »


And since you can't fathom there are people that don't think like you and your roommates,
Lol
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2021, 11:05:11 PM »
Any "doctor" who will write these articles at a distance needs to be questioned about his toughness to practice medicine.
They acknowledge that they can't make a diagnosis without examining him, but explain why the symptoms he shows call for such a professional examination.  Something more than Man. Woman. Person. Camera. TV.

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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2021, 11:08:40 PM »
They acknowledge that they can't make a diagnosis without examining him, but explain why the symptoms he shows call for such a professional examination.  Something more than Man. Woman. Person. Camera. TV.
That can probably be said about most of the world.
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2021, 11:10:26 PM »
That can probably be said about most of the world.
Actually, no. 
But about me, yes.  Just looked it up, and it was Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.  I flunked...

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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2021, 11:13:19 PM »
Actually, no. 
But about me, yes.  Just looked it up, and it was Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.  I flunked...
Try it about various presidential candidates for starters.
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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2021, 11:36:10 PM »
@PlatinumGuy I think you are incorrect on your assessment here. A lot of people think that Pence served as a counterbalance to Trump all these years and like him for what he brings to the table, too.

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Re: Pence Will Not Invoke 25th
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2021, 11:36:59 PM »

Pence agrees with Pelosi that the only basis for invoking the 25th would be a medical decision

Which is pretty clear from the text of the amendment. It says "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office." If he's doing his job in a way that you think is wrong (or even illegal), the 25th amendment is irrelevant.

And yet, I doubt there is a single person who is calling for the 25th amendment to be invoked that didn't say that Trump was fomenting sedition by advancing the (equally ridiculous) interpretation of the constitution that would allow Pence to decide to reject votes unilaterally.