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Re: President Biden
« Reply #75 on: April 01, 2021, 05:26:14 PM »
#incentivization
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: President Biden
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Re: President Biden
« Reply #77 on: April 02, 2021, 03:24:41 AM »
#incentivization
What would you do with the toddlers if it was up to you?
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Re: President Biden
« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2021, 08:36:51 AM »
What would you do with the toddlers if it was up to you?
They wouldn't come in

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #79 on: April 02, 2021, 08:40:26 AM »
They wouldn't come in
That doesnt answer the question, but how would you have stopped them from coming in?
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Re: President Biden
« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2021, 08:42:26 AM »
That doesnt answer the question, but how would you have stopped them from coming in?
I can hook you up with the former president he did a great job, if they would continue in that direction it would stop at some point

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #81 on: April 02, 2021, 08:44:54 AM »
I can hook you up with the former president he did a great job, if they would continue in that direction it would stop at some point
Can you provide any metric you used to make that claim or is it solely based on him conning you to believe that?
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Re: President Biden
« Reply #82 on: April 02, 2021, 08:56:42 AM »
Can you provide any metric you used to make that claim or is it solely based on him conning you to believe that?

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2021, 09:04:35 AM »
Are you literally citing Ted Cruz to establish a factual question of how many immigrants entered the country? Do you really believe everything they tell you?


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Re: President Biden
« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2021, 11:47:16 AM »

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2021, 02:44:24 PM »
There's a backlog and aggravated economic distress due to covid which also must be taken into account. Countries were closed in 2020, and emigration was not possible. Much as they'd like to believe otherwise, not everything that happens in the world is due to the administration. Correlation does not always equal causation. There are outside factors at play too, besides for which president happens to be in office.

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #86 on: April 02, 2021, 03:04:16 PM »
There's a backlog and aggravated economic distress due to covid which also must be taken into account. Countries were closed in 2020, and emigration was not possible. Much as they'd like to believe otherwise, not everything that happens in the world is due to the administration. Correlation does not always equal causation. There are outside factors at play too, besides for which president happens to be in office.

Sure there are other factors, but to suggest that Biden's rhetoric and policies have not made things worse (or that it isn't worse like some have tried to claim) is just wrong.

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #87 on: April 04, 2021, 08:21:48 AM »
Fact check: False (or is it 4 pinocchios?)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/march-border-crossings/2021/04/02/150ee61c-93b3-11eb-9af7-fd0822ae4398_story.html
Actually, when I posted that on April 1, it was correct. The article was published on April 2 and exposed for the first time that March 2021, using certain metrics, was indeed worse than the Trump years (but still not as bad as Bush senior), but thank you for opening my eyes to that.

Of course, they are cherry picked metrics. If you only count each migrant once and not separately for each attempted entry, the CBP estimates it would remove 30-40% of apprehensions, and 2019 would still be worse. The relevant metric is how many illegals are entering the US, and those were still higher in April 2019 than March 2021. The only difference is that in 2021 they were quickly expelled using Covid pretext (Title 42), so they just came back to the border and were caught again making apprehensions go up despite less people crossing the border than under Trump in 2019.

In short, less people are crossing the border more times. We care about the amount of illegal people in the country, not how many times they cross the border. Of course, the entire immigration debate is a giant political spin war since even illegal immigrants are quite good for America, but the metrics still have to make some sense...

S to suggest that Biden's policies have not made things worse is just wrong.
Which Biden border policy made things 'worse'?
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Re: President Biden
« Reply #88 on: April 05, 2021, 05:12:56 PM »
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Re: President Biden
« Reply #89 on: April 05, 2021, 05:22:33 PM »

#Unity
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