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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 01:37:46 PM »
What's next? Drugs.   :o :o :o :o

I feel bad for his wife and kids.

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 01:46:47 PM »
Interesting development.

What's next? Drugs.   :o :o :o :o

I feel bad for his wife and kids.

Are you kidding me?

You "feel bad for his wife and kids" because he shaved his beard?

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 01:49:52 PM »
Are you kidding me?

You "feel bad for his wife and kids" because he shaved his beard?
Not because he shaved his beard but because he is seriously confused on where he is heading in life.

The shaved beard is just another aspect in this confused man's struggle for figuring himself out.

I myself don't have a beard - but I didn't first grow it out real long for a few years only to later tweet pics of it taken off.

 

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 01:52:15 PM »
Not because he shaved his beard but because he is seriously confused on where he is heading in life.

The beard is just another aspect in this confused man's struggle for figuring himself out.

+1

And what about Tzitzis? Yarmulka? The tone it is written in suggests that this issue is much more then a beard .

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2011, 01:55:54 PM »
he def sounds confused about where he is heading in life

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 02:10:49 PM »
Likayem mah shene'mar "Chop em down'!

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 02:11:22 PM »
lol
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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 02:19:07 PM »
Not because he shaved his beard but because he is seriously confused on where he is heading in life.

The shaved beard is just another aspect in this confused man's struggle for figuring himself out.

/judgment

I myself don't have a beard - but I didn't first grow it out real long for a few years only to later tweet pics of it taken off.

Well, then that right there gives you the right to judge him.
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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 02:25:35 PM »
/judgment

Well, then that right there gives you the right to judge him.
He is entitled to do whatever he wants to do in his life. As a matter of fact, what's the difference to me whether he is a religious jew or not?

Adam Sandler is jewish but not frum, and you don't hear anyone complaining about that!

What strikes a cord here is that Matisyahu became religious and portrayed himself as an Orthodox jew, only to then pretty much revert back and go on to act differently. If he clearly defines who he is and what he stands for people wouldn't mind as much.

Additionally, my understanding is that a public figure such as Matisyahu who thrives on getting attention and adoration from the masses is asking to be judged on thing that he does in public (twitter?).

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 02:31:02 PM »
What strikes a cord here is that Matisyahu became religious and portrayed himself as an Orthodox jew, only to then pretty much revert back and go on to act differently. If he clearly defines who he is and what he stands for people wouldn't mind as much.

With all due respect, a person's endeavor to define one's self is often a life-long process.

People deviate from the "accepted norm" (whatever that may be) and then they can deviate back or deviate further.

Hey, this is probably a concept with which your familiar: repentance/day of atonement.

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2011, 02:33:04 PM »
With all due respect, a person's endeavor to define one's self is often a life-long process.
People deviate from the "accepted norm" (whatever that may be) and then they can deviate back or deviate further.
Hey, this is probably a concept with which your familiar: repentance/day of atonement.
I'm not saying that I'm perfect. But I don't splash my life across the internet and across the world.
Thus, my decisions/choices/mistakes are personal and affect pretty much only myself.

As a public figure (by choice), people expect more from him.

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 02:36:54 PM »
I'm not saying that I'm perfect. But I don't splash my life across the internet and across the world.
Thus, my decisions/choices/mistakes are personal and affect pretty much only myself.

As a public figure (by choice), people expect more from him.

You probably don't "splash [your] life across the internet and across the world" because you're not a music artist who has had a top 40 hit and who has made countless appearances on radio, tv and film.
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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 02:40:05 PM »
Btw, are you aware that Matisyahu Hamacabbi (whose victory over the Yevanim we will soon be celebrating) was an African American (Actually, america wasn't around then!) according to Matisyahu?




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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 02:40:39 PM »
/judgment



And is this not a judgement?!  ::)


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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2011, 02:42:24 PM »
 the fact that he wrote
 "felt that in order to become a good person I needed rules—lots of them—or else I would somehow fall apart. I am reclaiming myself. Trusting my goodness and my divine mission."
sounds like he has no need for rules
that doesnt bother me but he at one point protrayed himself as an orthodox jew which means living with rules (lots of them) and now he is changing which i have no problem but let him do it privately and keep off of twitter

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2011, 02:49:07 PM »
Just keep one thing in mind: Had he not been orthodox he would have not been famous. Using Yiddishkait to become famous is one thing, famously dumping it is worse and more outright offending. He could have simply said he is to weak to withstand the temptations, why knock Orthodox Judaism as "rules [for the nutcases who cannot control themselves otherwise]"?

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2011, 02:50:04 PM »
Its definitly a chilul hashem
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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2011, 02:56:12 PM »
I don't think this came as a surprise to anyone.
I am not sure if I would say it "bothers" me, (I see that many posters are trying to emphasize that he can do whatever he wants and it does not bother them, BUT this or that does bother them) but it definitely "hurts" me to see such a thing (a fellow yid blatantly disregarding the Torah, and then describing it simply as rules), whether it is on Twitter or off, publicly or privately.

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Re: Matisyahu Shaves Beard...
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2011, 02:57:05 PM »
I don't think this came as a surprise to anyone.
I am not sure if I would say it "bothers" me (I see that many posters are trying to emphasize that he can do whatever he wants BUT this or that does bother them). But it definitely "hurts" me to see such a thing (a fellow yid blatantly disregarding the Torah, and then describing it simply as rules), whether it is on Twitter or off, publicly or privately.
+1.