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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2021, 01:06:42 PM »
Well, I was thinking mostly about EY, but I can imagine that there's a market for non-smartphones that can benefit from the ability to communicate over alternative networks/platforms other than the traditional phone providers.
Thats possible.
I was thinking of a brochure i saw explaining the lack of qwerty phones, in their words non smartphones are used solely by seniors who dont need texting or by mafia members. I naturally assumed when you said a global hit you were referring to the global mafia  :)

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2021, 01:13:23 PM »
Well, I was thinking mostly about EY, but I can imagine that there's a market for non-smartphones that can benefit from the ability to communicate over alternative networks/platforms other than the traditional phone providers.

Because of the cost of smartphones? Because smartphones (that can make phone calls on apps and do a whole lot of other things) can be had for much less than $120.

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2021, 01:14:34 PM »
I think it's a common misconception that only Jews use flip phones. Almost although most of the world has shifted to smartphones, there is still a market for flip phones. Why would US Cellular have the LG Wine 2? they don't even offer service in the tri-state area. Hence, there are other people who use these types of phones.

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2021, 01:28:15 PM »
1) Something in-between the sprint lg remarq and the at&t zte z432
2) For T-Mobile!

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2021, 01:32:46 PM »
I think it's a common misconception that only Jews use flip phones. Almost although most of the world has shifted to smartphones, there is still a market for flip phones. Why would US Cellular have the LG Wine 2? they don't even offer service in the tri-state area. Hence, there are other people who use these types of phones.

A very small market? For seniors, or people who don't wanna pay for a data plan. Neither of those groups need most of these features:

Thank You so very much for taking up our plight!

-dedicated Voice Dictation Button (cloud based)
-Decent Camera WITH GEOTAGGING
~Backup pictures to Google photos
-Sync Contacts with google
-Optional Email and SMS
-Optional Hotspot
-Spotify (unofficial is ok) support
-VoLTE and WiFi Calling for ALL carriers (including T-Mobile)
-Band 3 LTE for Israel
-Waze, Google Maps, Moovit, Walking directions
-consider making the middle button of the D- pad double as touchpad (like blackberry Bold and Samsung on T-Mobile)
-Mouse pointer for apps with a dedicated button.
(The buttons for Mouse and Voice Access can be officially for something else but easily re- assignable in settings?)
-Apps: Spotify, Maps, Google Photos, Weather, etc)

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2021, 01:35:44 PM »
A very small market? For seniors, or people who don't wanna pay for a data plan. Neither of those groups need most of these features:

It's not about the Data plan. Smartphone are too much of a distraction for many.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2021, 01:38:29 PM »
It's not about the Data plan. Smartphone are too much of a distraction for many.

The market is very small. Granted it's still 0.x% or or 0.0X% of the global cellphone market, but you'd be a new entrant competing against the likes of LG.

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2021, 02:21:09 PM »
The market is very small. Granted it's still 0.x% or or 0.0X% of the global cellphone market, but you'd be a new entrant competing against the likes of LG.
In terms of breaking into global markets you would seem correct, unless there would be some heavy proprietary software that would make a niche market. but even to do that would require heavy marketing and doesnt seem profitable (obviously i dont have hard data to back this, just a feeling)
I wonder if OP has any data on this....
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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2021, 02:24:01 PM »
In terms of breaking into global markets you would seem correct, unless there would be some heavy proprietary software that would make a niche market.

What niche market other than the frum market? What's the value proposition?

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2021, 02:27:43 PM »
I was talking theoretically, what popped into mind was something posted in the flip phone thread, https://www.thelightphone.com/ which is totally different from a standard basic phone. I didnt have anything in mind for this case

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2021, 02:38:24 PM »
I was talking theoretically, what popped into mind was something posted in the flip phone thread, https://www.thelightphone.com/ which is totally different from a standard basic phone. I didnt have anything in mind for this case

Nice product. I thought you meant create a new niche that doesn't exist yet. LightPhone 2 has some other competitors  e.g.  Punkt MP02, Mudita Pure (being developed, not yet on the market). If you entered that market (which I think is already saturated) you'd have to offer a competitive product (experience/feature-wise), and from a design/UI standpoint those are very nice.

Either way, it's very different than what the OP is discussing.

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2021, 02:53:59 PM »
Nice product. I thought you meant create a new niche that doesn't exist yet. LightPhone 2 has some other competitors  e.g.  Punkt MP02, Mudita Pure (being developed, not yet on the market). If you entered that market (which I think is already saturated) you'd have to offer a competitive product (experience/feature-wise), and from a design/UI standpoint those are very nice.

Either way, it's very different than what the OP is discussing.
100%. I did not mean to make a product similar to the light phone. All i meant was similar to those companies (i didnt realize light phone had competition) to create a niche that doesnt exist, if OP had data to prove that there was a need not yet being filled and go global with a new product. But that doesnt seem to be the goal of the OP, and in the current state i would agree that its just the frum market
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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2021, 12:29:29 PM »
It should be a rugged phone, full keyboard, no lag,
optional Good camera, Bluetooth, better resolution screen to be a able to view mms

Sonim XP3 is a great phone if it would only have a full keyboard, it has loud speakers, its rugged and has all benefits described above, I need a phone that doesn't break when the little ones put their hand on it

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2021, 02:25:58 PM »
It should be a rugged phone, full keyboard, no lag,
optional Good camera, Bluetooth, better resolution screen to be a able to view mms

Sonim XP3 is a great phone if it would only have a full keyboard, it has loud speakers, its rugged and has all benefits described above, I need a phone that doesn't break when the little ones put their hand on it
The only downside of that is that such a phone takes up much valuable pocket space.

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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2021, 02:35:20 PM »
The only downside of that is that such a phone takes up much valuable pocket space.
For you or your wife?