Author Topic: Revive The Phone With A Keyboard (Read 19620 times)

AsherO · « **Reply #40 on:** January 29, 2021, 02:38:24 PM »

Quote from: MoYS on January 29, 2021, 02:27:43 PM

I was talking theoretically, what popped into mind was something posted in the flip phone thread, https://www.thelightphone.com/ which is totally different from a standard basic phone. I didnt have anything in mind for this case

Nice product. I thought you meant create a new niche that doesn't exist yet. LightPhone 2 has some other competitors e.g. Punkt MP02, Mudita Pure (being developed, not yet on the market). If you entered that market (which I think is already saturated) you'd have to offer a competitive product (experience/feature-wise), and from a design/UI standpoint those are very nice.

Either way, it's very different than what the OP is discussing.

MoYS · « **Reply #41 on:** January 29, 2021, 02:53:59 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on January 29, 2021, 02:38:24 PM

Nice product. I thought you meant create a new niche that doesn't exist yet. LightPhone 2 has some other competitors e.g. Punkt MP02, Mudita Pure (being developed, not yet on the market). If you entered that market (which I think is already saturated) you'd have to offer a competitive product (experience/feature-wise), and from a design/UI standpoint those are very nice.

Either way, it's very different than what the OP is discussing.

100%. I did not mean to make a product similar to the light phone. All i meant was similar to those companies (i didnt realize light phone had competition) to create a niche that doesnt exist, if OP had data to prove that there was a need not yet being filled and go global with a new product. But that doesnt seem to be the goal of the OP, and in the current state i would agree that its just the frum market

yesitsme · « **Reply #42 on:** January 31, 2021, 12:29:29 PM »

It should be a rugged phone, full keyboard, no lag,
optional Good camera, Bluetooth, better resolution screen to be a able to view mms

Sonim XP3 is a great phone if it would only have a full keyboard, it has loud speakers, its rugged and has all benefits described above, I need a phone that doesn't break when the little ones put their hand on it

shabbosabba · « **Reply #43 on:** January 31, 2021, 02:25:58 PM »

Quote from: yesitsme on January 31, 2021, 12:29:29 PM

It should be a rugged phone, full keyboard, no lag,
optional Good camera, Bluetooth, better resolution screen to be a able to view mms

Sonim XP3 is a great phone if it would only have a full keyboard, it has loud speakers, its rugged and has all benefits described above, I need a phone that doesn't break when the little ones put their hand on it

The only downside of that is that such a phone takes up much valuable pocket space.

yesitsme · « **Reply #44 on:** January 31, 2021, 02:35:20 PM »

Quote from: shabbosabba on January 31, 2021, 02:25:58 PM

The only downside of that is that such a phone takes up much valuable pocket space.

For you or your wife?

myi · « **Reply #45 on:** January 31, 2021, 11:06:18 PM »

Quote from: Kosher_Cellutions on January 28, 2021, 10:56:41 AM

I spent 20+ years in the mobile wireless industry not only building software but also manufacturing and selling mobile phones to carriers all over the world. I have started the research to develop our very own Phone with a keyboard. I will take input from anyone that wishes to give it. I have started to talk to the factories I know that produce A grade products, but you must understand you get what you pay for. I will not put my name on a phone that does not meet my own standards. The retail price is going to be between $100-120 since I have to get it approved to be used on Verizon. Typically phones that are approved to work on Verizon cost more. I will take all your feedback and even pictures of what a device should look like and go from there. I will be building out the software myself as well.

Quote from: Kosher_Cellutions on September 21, 2020, 02:32:19 PM

Please stop asking for a phone with a keyboard. There is nothing that will have this other then a blackberry.

I find that last quote to be quite ironic!
I guess you changed your mind.
Look what DDF did to you!

yesitsme · « **Reply #46 on:** January 31, 2021, 11:41:01 PM »

There are many more that would love a keyboard that are not in the DDF family

AsherO · « **Reply #47 on:** January 31, 2021, 11:59:03 PM »

Quote from: myi on January 31, 2021, 11:06:18 PM

I find that last quote to be quite ironic!
I guess you changed your mind.
Look what DDF did to you!

If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em...

myi · « **Reply #48 on:** February 01, 2021, 12:09:49 AM »

Quote from: AsherO on January 31, 2021, 11:59:03 PM

If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em...

I guess so.
Even mr opinionated hopped onto the band wagon trying to see if he can pull through with a device!

Kosher_Cellutions · « **Reply #49 on:** February 01, 2021, 06:43:09 PM »

Quote from: myi on February 01, 2021, 12:09:49 AM

I guess so.
Even mr opinionated hopped onto the band wagon trying to see if he can pull through with a device!

Excuse me are you talking about me?

myi · « **Reply #50 on:** February 01, 2021, 07:00:51 PM »

Quote from: Kosher_Cellutions on February 01, 2021, 06:43:09 PM

Excuse me are you talking about me?

Is your name mr opinionated? If not ,then it's not you! המבין יאבין..

Banillareloads · « **Reply #51 on:** February 02, 2021, 11:29:02 AM »

LG lotus form factor would be nice

azforkosh · « **Reply #52 on:** February 03, 2021, 12:41:03 PM »

With a 'BlackBerry-like' keyboard and a few apps, it's a basic Smartphone not a basic feature phone and is not what so many people are missing since the sunset of 3G.

A 4G device with a Slide Keyboard (or the like) and no apps is what's missing and is nowhere to be found yet.

Yonah · « **Reply #53 on:** February 03, 2021, 01:07:50 PM »

I don't know this market well, but you have me wondering. I imagine that most users of the phone would want access to some smartphone like apps - i.e. alternative messaging like Whatsapp/Telegram/Signal or some sort of music/streaming service. They probably want at least one e-mail client too, and possibly word processing.

When you get down to it, it essentially becomes a custom android ROM with a fixed set of approved apps. While brining back the keyboard phone might be noble, you may want to consider a separate 'light' OS service that curates what apps can be installed, since there is seemingly a demand for it.

As for the keyboard phone, one of the tradeoffs will be screen size. I have to figure that a keyboard will take up about 2.5 inches and even if you use a bezel-free screen, you're looking at, say, a 3.5-4inch screen. Obviously, if you are coming from a blackberry or flip phone, it's an improvement, but from a smartphone, not so much.

yungermanchik · « **Reply #54 on:** February 03, 2021, 08:57:04 PM »

Quote from: azforkosh on February 03, 2021, 12:41:03 PM

With a 'BlackBerry-like' keyboard and a few apps, it's a basic Smartphone not a basic feature phone and is not what so many people are missing since the sunset of 3G.

A 4G device with a Slide Keyboard (or the like) and no apps is what's missing and is nowhere to be found yet.

100%

yesitsme · « **Reply #55 on:** February 05, 2021, 12:46:21 AM »

pssst a keyboard and a lens
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1609072-REG/apexel_apl_22x105_4in1_metal_22x_telescope_fisheye.html
where calculators are heading these days
@Something Fishy is it worth the money?

Something Fishy · « **Reply #56 on:** February 05, 2021, 01:08:52 AM »

It's a toy

AsherO · « **Reply #57 on:** February 05, 2021, 08:22:09 AM »

Quote from: yesitsme on February 05, 2021, 12:46:21 AM

pssst a keyboard and a lens
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1609072-REG/apexel_apl_22x105_4in1_metal_22x_telescope_fisheye.html
where calculators are heading these days
@Something Fishy is it worth the money?

I’m not an expert at all, but that looks super-gimmicky.

myi · « **Reply #58 on:** February 08, 2021, 03:40:08 PM »

Quote from: yesitsme on February 05, 2021, 12:46:21 AM

pssst a keyboard and a lens
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1609072-REG/apexel_apl_22x105_4in1_metal_22x_telescope_fisheye.html
where calculators are heading these days
@Something Fishy is it worth the money?

The toy is a bit cheaper here..https://electronics.woot.com/offers/apexel-apl-22x105-4in1-apexel-4-in-1-smartphone-lens?

chayal101 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 11, 2021, 09:25:14 AM »

Just bring back the blackberry bold! Upgrade the camera & add whatsapp capabilities if you'd like & we're good to go! The messaging is a pleasure on the bold! Highly considering going back to it. I've made a jump away from smartphones a while ago & loved the bold until the phone broke & we've been back to smartphones... unfortunately... . It was also very difficult to get transfer service to these bb phones on sprint.