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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2021, 08:31:39 PM »
https://nypost.com/2021/02/09/why-trump-lawyer-david-schoen-covered-head-while-sipping-water/amp/

Isn't your hand not considered a covering? Someone else's hand is and your own sleeve is, too. IIRC, it's a Rishon who points that out.
I believe it's a matter of debate. I saw somebody on twitter point out he put the bottle cap over his head too...
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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2021, 08:52:02 PM »
II saw somebody on twitter point out he put the bottle cap over his head too...
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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2021, 09:39:00 PM »
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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2021, 09:52:33 PM »

Can the Dems use mail in ballots?
What about the congressman who died from covid? Is he eligible to vote?
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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2021, 10:57:49 PM »
I meant Castor, not Schoen.  He's the lawyer who's talking now, on Trump's defense team.  I can't understand what point he's trying to make right now on the Senate floor, and he's been going on for about half an hour.
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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2021, 11:07:41 PM »
You said people should have to take political responsibility by making their vote public. The Constitution explicitly says they do not have to (unless 20% of the vote forces them to).

You are quoting a clause in the constitution whose purpose is political accountability, and which makes it essentially impossible for any controversial vote to be secret.

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2021, 12:43:47 AM »
Reassuring to know it wasn't just me who couldn't understand what Castor was trying to say.  So it seems that Schoen was supposed to lead the defense, but as he heard that "the House managers' presentation was well done", he realized he had to edit his presentation, and so Castor was sent in to adlib for the first hour.

But what does it mean?  They had expected the Democrats to do a crappy job, and so hadn't prepared adequately?  Or were they surprised at the video, and felt they needed to put together some visual effects themselves?  Or had Raskin shot through Schoen's argument before he even had a chance to make it?  Strange.

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2021, 12:52:40 AM »
Reassuring to know it wasn't just me who couldn't understand what Castor was trying to say.  So it seems that Schoen was supposed to lead the defense, but as he heard that "the House managers' presentation was well done", he realized he had to edit his presentation, and so Castor was sent in to adlib for the first hour.

But what does it mean?  They had expected the Democrats to do a crappy job, and so hadn't prepared adequately?  Or were they surprised at the video, and felt they needed to put together some visual effects themselves?  Or had Raskin shot through Schoen's argument before he even had a chance to make it?  Strange.
It means it's very hard to defend against a slam dunk impeachment

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2021, 01:01:32 AM »
It means it's very hard to defend against a slam dunk impeachment
But he had prepared something that he thought would work.  Just wondering what made him change his mind at the last minute.  Maybe he was going to say something like "A month later it's been all but forgotten", and then the video made it memorable all over again.

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2021, 01:19:58 AM »
But he had prepared something that he thought would work.  Just wondering what made him change his mind at the last minute.  Maybe he was going to say something like "A month later it's been all but forgotten", and then the video made it memorable all over again.
You’re giving Trump and his Rudys too much credit

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2021, 12:23:58 PM »
Jamie Raskin is really talented at reading off a paper with good pace and emotion, making him sound (almost) like he's not reading off a paper. If this politics thing doesn't work our for him, he should consider making audiobooks.

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2021, 12:31:20 PM »
Jamie Raskin is really talented at reading off a paper with good pace and emotion, making him sound (almost) like he's not reading off a paper. If this politics thing doesn't work our for him, he should consider making audiobooks.
You're criticizing him for being prepared? 

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2021, 12:32:25 PM »
You're criticizing him for being prepared? 

Jamie Raskin is really talented at reading off a paper with good pace and emotion, making him sound (almost) like he's not reading off a paper.
Completely serious.

If this politics thing doesn't work our for him, he should consider making audiobooks.
Joke.

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2021, 12:41:15 PM »
It means it's very hard to defend against a slam dunk impeachment

Can you please share the neutrally applicable standard by which this is a "slam dunk impeachment"

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2021, 12:52:35 PM »
Completely serious.
Joke.
I got the joke part, but didn't know if the serious part a criticism, or just an observation.  I found both Raskin and Neguse fascinating, and it makes me want to go to law school.  If law school lectures are anything like these two.

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2021, 12:55:30 PM »
I got the joke part, but didn't know if the serious part a criticism, or just an observation.  I found both Raskin and Neguse fascinating, and it makes me want to go to law school.  If law school lectures are anything like these two.
Negoose is doing a great job, but I was especially taken by how Raskin, who was reading off papers, sounded. He was really smooth and poised, not usually the case when someone is reading of papers.

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2021, 01:03:42 PM »
Negoose is doing a great job, but I was especially taken by how Raskin, who was reading off papers, sounded. He was really smooth and poised, not usually the case when someone is reading of papers.

Agreed, incredible. He's a professor of constitutional law, and so yesterday's presentation was something he had talked about often.

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2021, 01:33:48 PM »
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1359546398832795649

‘The Dems are blowing it out of proportion’

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Re: Trump Impeachment Trial 2.0
« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2021, 02:05:15 PM »

‘The Dems are blowing it out of proportion’

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Rubio might have blocked response to this tweet, but you can still contact him and let him know what you think.  I just did.
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