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#1 Covid isn’t deadly & it only affects the elderly and immunocompromised 

Evidence for:

1) https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/brain-fog-heart-damage-covid-19-s-lingering-problems-alarm-scientists
2) https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
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Of the 100 included patients, 53 (53%) were male, and the mean (SD) age was 49 (14) years. The median (IQR) time interval between COVID-19 diagnosis and CMR was 71 (64-92) days. Of the 100 patients recently recovered from COVID-19, 67 (67%) recovered at home, while 33 (33%) required hospitalization. At the time of CMR, high-sensitivity troponin T (hsTnT) was detectable (greater than 3 pg/mL) in 71 patients recently recovered from COVID-19 (71%) and significantly elevated (greater than 13.9 pg/mL) in 5 patients (5%). Compared with healthy controls and risk factor–matched controls, patients recently recovered from COVID-19 had lower left ventricular ejection fraction, higher left ventricle volumes, and raised native T1 and T2. A total of 78 patients recently recovered from COVID-19 (78%) had abnormal CMR findings, including raised myocardial native T1 (n = 73), raised myocardial native T2 (n = 60), myocardial late gadolinium enhancement (n = 32), or pericardial enhancement (n = 22).



#4 Masks don’t help


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As of August 11, 24 (23%) Kansas counties had a mask mandate in place, and 81 did not. Mandated counties accounted for two thirds of the Kansas population (1,960,703 persons; 67.3%)*** and were spread throughout the state, although they tended to cluster together. Six (25%) mandated and 13 (16%) nonmandated counties were metropolitan areas.††† Thirteen (54%) mandated counties and seven (9%) nonmandated counties had implemented at least one other public health mitigation strategy not related to the use of masks (e.g., limits on size of gatherings and occupancy for restaurants). During June 1–7, 2020, the 7-day rolling average of daily COVID-19 incidence among counties that ultimately had a mask mandate was three cases per 100,000, and among counties that did not, was four per 100,000 (Table). By the week of the governor’s executive order requiring masks (July 3–9), COVID-19 incidence had increased 467% to 17 per 100,000 in mandated counties and 50% to six per 100,000 among nonmandated counties. By August 17–23, 2020, the 7-day rolling average COVID-19 incidence had decreased by 6% to 16 cases per 100,000 among mandated counties and increased by 100% to 12 per 100,000 among nonmandated counties.



https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e2.htm

2) https://www.ajtmh.org/view/journals/tpmd/103/6/article-p2400.xml?tab_body=fulltext

3) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.31.20048652v1.full-text

4) https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

5) https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(20)30235-8/fulltext

6) Canada:
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We find that, in the first few weeks after implementation, mask mandates are associated with a reduction of 25 percent in the weekly number of new COVID-19 cases.

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w27891/w27891.pdf



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Author Topic: DDF Mythbusters: The 10 Covid Fallacies  (Read 7916 times)

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Re: DDF Mythbusters: The 10 Covid Fallacies
« Reply #80 on: January 23, 2022, 01:00:02 AM »
Can you provide a source for this claim?What are you talking about? The differences by Delta were even more pronounced.
SA published about a 30 percent effectiveness with the vaccine - vaccinated seem well protected in NY

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Re: DDF Mythbusters: The 10 Covid Fallacies
« Reply #81 on: January 23, 2022, 01:21:43 AM »
SA published about a 30 percent effectiveness with the vaccine - vaccinated seem well protected in NY
Vs. infection, hospitalization, or death?
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Re: DDF Mythbusters: The 10 Covid Fallacies
« Reply #82 on: January 23, 2022, 01:23:21 AM »
SA published about a 30 percent effectiveness with the vaccine - vaccinated seem well protected in NY

There are a lot of variables that could affect that, for example:

SA had lots of J&J vaccinations, ~40% of fully vaccinated individuals in SA got a single J&J dose.
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Re: DDF Mythbusters: The 10 Covid Fallacies
« Reply #83 on: January 23, 2022, 01:12:19 PM »
I'd like to see this broken down to 2x vs 3x vaxxed.
I didn't read the whole article, but he has several comparisons of 2 vs 3.
https://erictopol.substack.com/p/where-do-we-stand-with-omicron

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Re: DDF Mythbusters: The 10 Covid Fallacies
« Reply #84 on: January 23, 2022, 01:17:46 PM »
I didn't read the whole article, but he has several comparisons of 2 vs 3.
https://erictopol.substack.com/p/where-do-we-stand-with-omicron

Much appreciated, makes me wonder if a booster would spare my vaxxed family members from recent Omicron infection.

In our case the fallacy wasn’t that boosters don’t make a difference, rather it was the mistaken assumption that high antibodies offered protection or not much exposure (due to not going out much), both mistakes in light of what we now know.
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