Thanks for the tips, was hoping for more DDFers with machines to have a discussion, the way we have discussions about smoking meat, the key when it comes to Espresso making is that the beans should be the freshest roast possible, that's why it costs so much to order from roasters as they send them out the day it's roasted, what I am looking for is beans that are usually sold fresh, I've read about Peet's, I think I am going to try it, Amazon is also selling them, maybe i should start off with a single pack from Amazon to see how fresh they are, would love to hear a from someone else if they are good