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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2021, 01:29:36 AM »
On average, renewable energy sources - mostly wind - account for about 20% of its energy supply .
On Tuesday, the state's principal energy supplier, the Electricity Reliability Council of Texas (Ercot), said the freezing conditions had led to :

30GW being taken offline from gas, coal and nuclear sources
a 16GW loss in capacity in wind and other renewable energy supplies

In other words, 80% of the capacity resulted in 30GW worth of outages. If the 20% of wind capacity performed the same,it wouldve lost just 7.5GW, compared to the more than double it lost. That 8.5GW of extra capacity lost may have been the difference between outages and everything running normally (or at least a lot less outages).

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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2021, 01:39:16 AM »
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2021, 01:47:46 AM »
@mods please move this thread to the Politics board

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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2021, 01:55:21 AM »
On average, renewable energy sources - mostly wind - account for about 20% of its energy supply .
On Tuesday, the state's principal energy supplier, the Electricity Reliability Council of Texas (Ercot), said the freezing conditions had led to :

30GW being taken offline from gas, coal and nuclear sources
a 16GW loss in capacity in wind and other renewable energy supplies

In other words, 80% of the capacity resulted in 30GW worth of outages. If the 20% of wind capacity performed the same,it wouldve lost just 7.5GW, compared to the more than double it lost. That 8.5GW of extra capacity lost may have been the difference between outages and everything running normally (or at least a lot less outages).

Texas is short at least 18.5 GW. 8.5 GW alone would not solve the problem. Regardless, wind power fundamentally can function just fine in this weather, the only problem is Texas didnt prepare their turbines for it bc its a big investment for an incredibly rare event, and they assumed theyd have NG.

Wind is producing just as much as Texas planned for it to produce now, and there was nothing stopping them from weather proofing it to make it produce more now. 


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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2021, 04:42:46 AM »
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2021, 06:49:54 AM »
As you see here, they actually have access to the main grid, the problem is the main grid is also stretched to the max.
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2021, 09:19:17 AM »
As you see here, they actually have access to the main grid, the problem is the main grid is also stretched to the max.

#facts

Of course there were missteps here, but anyone going for the quick political shot, whether a polititian or not, is a hack. There are SO MANY factors involved. Many items being mentioned by hacks on both sides have merit to them, but none are THE thing. The TX energy market is different than any other in the country. Their regulatory schemes have both advantages and disadvantages over others. Just like any other regualtory scheme devised by man. Until this event, the TX structure has outperformed any other in the country both in reliability and in cost. There are some shortcomings in the system being laid bare here and there will probably be changes to the market. SOme of the shortcomings were either known or foreseeable and some not.
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2021, 12:06:44 PM »


Invalid Tweet ID
(ETA its fake)



Think he cleared?
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2021, 12:21:18 PM »
@mods please move this thread to the Politics board

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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2021, 12:38:43 PM »
#facts

Of course there were missteps here, but anyone going for the quick political shot, whether a polititian or not, is a hack. There are SO MANY factors involved. Many items being mentioned by hacks on both sides have merit to them, but none are THE thing. The TX energy market is different than any other in the country. Their regulatory schemes have both advantages and disadvantages over others. Just like any other regualtory scheme devised by man. Until this event, the TX structure has outperformed any other in the country both in reliability and in cost. There are some shortcomings in the system being laid bare here and there will probably be changes to the market. SOme of the shortcomings were either known or foreseeable and some not.

Please don't bring reason to a flame war
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2021, 01:10:32 PM »
Please don't bring reason to a flame war
Those angry Republicans ::)
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2021, 01:12:35 PM »
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(ETA its fake)
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What's fake?



Think he cleared?

Why would he do a quick turn at CUN? Is he mileage running? Escorting a relative? Running drugs? Sudden change of heart?

What happened?

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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2021, 01:15:53 PM »
Why would he do a quick turn at CUN? Is he mileage running? Escorting a relative? Running drugs? Sudden change of heart?

What happened?
Please?
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2021, 01:29:54 PM »
Think he cleared?

Definitely. This flight was clearly a plan B
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2021, 01:30:21 PM »
Why would he do a quick turn at CUN? Is he mileage running? Escorting a relative? Running drugs? Sudden change of heart?

What happened?

He deserted to Cancun and decided to come back when he was caught and shamed for it (TVs crews are already waiting at IAH). He's already at ~44% approval vs 45% approval.

Definitely. This flight was clearly a plan B
Lol.
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2021, 01:51:14 PM »
"who cares about the people in TX-I need to attack Ted Cruz"
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2021, 02:07:19 PM »
Ok back to regular programming, are things getting better yet? How long will it take to get back to normal?

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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2021, 03:04:30 PM »
"who cares about the people in TX-I need to attack Ted Cruz"
Definitely sounds like what Beto Obourke is doing now...

Ok back to regular programming, are things getting better yet? How long will it take to get back to normal?
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2021, 05:04:21 PM »
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2021, 06:58:33 PM »
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