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Ice Age in Texas
« on: February 17, 2021, 10:51:27 PM »
With talk that this is only the beginning of global energy problems cascading from Texas natural gas shutdown, perhaps it's time for a dedicated thread.








« Last Edit: February 17, 2021, 11:35:40 PM by PlatinumGuy »
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2021, 11:20:23 PM »
With talk that this is only the beginning of global energy problems cascading from Texas natural gas shutdown, perhaps it's time for a dedicated thread.


Where do you see any evidence of anything global cascading from this?

Please keep the Lincoln project out of any serious discussion.

While being connected to a larger grid would have helped Texas this week, the crux of the issue (without getting into the political blame game) is the fact that ERCOT was not properly prepared for the worst case scenario when it happened. Also, the NG shortage would be little helped by the electric being connected to the larger grid.
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2021, 11:28:16 PM »
Where do you see any evidence of anything global cascading from this?

I didn't say evidence. I said talk. (straw man)






Please keep the Lincoln project out of any serious discussion.
Silly ad hominem attitude. שמע את האמת ממי שאמרה.


Also, the NG shortage would be little helped by the electric being connected to the larger grid.
Why is that? Short power from NG, transmit power from other states. Oops, we're not connected.


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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2021, 11:33:07 PM »

Same in Antarctica, Canadian praries, Denmark, and Alaska
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2021, 11:40:08 PM »
I didn't say evidence. I said talk. (straw man)




I wasn't trying to attack you, I just hadn't seen anyone talk about any global cascade. I honestly don't see this having any real effect on the global market, the outage will be too short for that.


Silly ad hominem attitude. שמע את האמת ממי שאמרה.

There is legitimate reason for them to stay separate and there are legitimate reasons not to over regulate. The Lincoln project has an anti cruz agenda that has nothing to do with the facts at hand.


Why is that? Short power from NG, transmit power from other states. Oops, we're not connected.


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1) I'm referring to the fact that there are homes that don't have gas because there's a gas shortage.

2) there's a limit to how much power you can import, the transmission lines can only bring in so much. Whether or not that would have been enough is not something I can answer.

I usually just skip right over whatever you write in Hebrew, of it's important enough you'll have to write it in english.
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2021, 11:41:57 PM »

Same in Antarctica, Canadian praries, Denmark, and Alaska
Would those wind turbines work well in 100+ degree Texas heat? (I don't know the answer, but unless we know the answer is yes this tweet is worthless.)
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2021, 11:47:12 PM »
I usually just skip right over whatever you write in Hebrew, of it's important enough you'll have to write it in english.

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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2021, 11:53:26 PM »


I usually just skip right over whatever you write in Hebrew, of it's important enough you'll have to write it in english.
You’d be better  off skipping the English too

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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2021, 11:56:45 PM »
+1K. Getting a little out of hand...
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2021, 12:02:35 AM »
Where do you see any evidence of anything global cascading from this?

Please keep the Lincoln project out of any serious discussion.

While being connected to a larger grid would have helped Texas this week, the crux of the issue (without getting into the political blame game) is the fact that ERCOT was not properly prepared for the worst case scenario when it happened. Also, the NG shortage would be little helped by the electric being connected to the larger grid.
Not gonna lie, I’m more than a little curious what @Something Fishy modified in this post.
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2021, 12:04:29 AM »
Not gonna lie, I’m more than a little curious what @Something Fishy modified in this post.
Nothing noteworthy as far I can remember
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2021, 12:07:19 AM »
Not gonna lie, I’m more than a little curious what @Something Fishy modified in this post.

@avromie7 had quoted the entire OP. I deleted the quoted tweets to avoid duplication and a ton of scrolling.
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2021, 12:10:09 AM »
@avromie7 had quoted the entire OP. I deleted the quoted tweets to avoid duplication and a ton of scrolling.
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2021, 12:22:41 AM »
The Lincoln project has an anti cruz agenda that has nothing to do with the facts at hand.

1) I'm referring to the fact that there are homes that don't have gas because there's a gas shortage.

2) there's a limit to how much power you can import, the transmission lines can only bring in so much. Whether or not that would have been enough is not something I can answer.
The LP agenda is entirely irrelevant to the fact they're accurately pointing out Ted Cruz is a hack for making up a story about Califronia when it's actually true about Texas.

1) Power would solve most of the severe problem as an alternative source of heat.

2) The proof is NM AR & OK had the same storm and no power outages.

 
Would those wind turbines work well in 100+ degree Texas heat? (I don't know the answer, but unless we know the answer is yes this tweet is worthless.)
The argument is silly because wind production in Texas, even now, is outperforming expectations (or down very slightly) so it's not the problem. It's a rhetorical refutation of Abbotts claim on Fox that wind power 'Green New Deal', is fundamentally not weather resistant which is a pathetic lie. If it was Cuomo he would be crucified here.
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Re: Ice Age in Texas
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2021, 12:27:16 AM »
And here i thought that this was in Just Shmooze to make an attempt at not being political and about political hacks on either side. Silly me.
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