Author Topic: Ice Age in Texas (Read 9565 times)

yuneeq · « **Reply #20 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:29:36 AM »

“On average, renewable energy sources - mostly wind - account for about 20% of its energy supply .
On Tuesday, the state's principal energy supplier, the Electricity Reliability Council of Texas (Ercot), said the freezing conditions had led to :

30GW being taken offline from gas, coal and nuclear sources
a 16GW loss in capacity in wind and other renewable energy supplies”

In other words, 80% of the capacity resulted in 30GW worth of outages. If the 20% of wind capacity performed the same,it would’ve lost just 7.5GW, compared to the more than double it lost. That 8.5GW of extra capacity lost may have been the difference between outages and everything running normally (or at least a lot less outages).

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #21 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:39:16 AM »

Liberals are out to destroy America

https://twitter.com/betoorourke/status/1362280019863564291

Euclid · « **Reply #22 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:47:46 AM »

@mods please move this thread to the Politics board

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #23 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:55:21 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on February 18, 2021, 01:29:36 AM

“On average, renewable energy sources - mostly wind - account for about 20% of its energy supply .
On Tuesday, the state's principal energy supplier, the Electricity Reliability Council of Texas (Ercot), said the freezing conditions had led to :

30GW being taken offline from gas, coal and nuclear sources
a 16GW loss in capacity in wind and other renewable energy supplies”

In other words, 80% of the capacity resulted in 30GW worth of outages. If the 20% of wind capacity performed the same,it would’ve lost just 7.5GW, compared to the more than double it lost. That 8.5GW of extra capacity lost may have been the difference between outages and everything running normally (or at least a lot less outages).

Texas is short at least 18.5 GW. 8.5 GW alone would not solve the problem. Regardless, wind power fundamentally can function just fine in this weather, the only problem is Texas didn’t prepare their turbines for it bc it’s a big investment for an incredibly rare event, and they assumed they’d have NG.

Wind is producing just as much as Texas planned for it to produce now, and there was nothing stopping them from weather proofing it to make it produce more now.

https://twitter.com/ercot_iso/status/1362046636956913667
https://twitter.com/ercot_iso/status/1361668499068829700

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2021, 04:42:46 AM »

https://twitter.com/alexdstuckey/status/1362076832049356804

avromie7 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 18, 2021, 06:49:54 AM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on February 18, 2021, 01:55:21 AM

https://twitter.com/ercot_iso/status/1362046636956913667

As you see here, they actually have access to the main grid, the problem is the main grid is also stretched to the max.

aygart · « **Reply #26 on:** February 18, 2021, 09:19:17 AM »

Quote from: avromie7 on February 18, 2021, 06:49:54 AM

As you see here, they actually have access to the main grid, the problem is the main grid is also stretched to the max.

#facts

Of course there were missteps here, but anyone going for the quick political shot, whether a polititian or not, is a hack. There are SO MANY factors involved. Many items being mentioned by hacks on both sides have merit to them, but none are THE thing. The TX energy market is different than any other in the country. Their regulatory schemes have both advantages and disadvantages over others. Just like any other regualtory scheme devised by man. Until this event, the TX structure has outperformed any other in the country both in reliability and in cost. There are some shortcomings in the system being laid bare here and there will probably be changes to the market. SOme of the shortcomings were either known or foreseeable and some not.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #27 on:** February 18, 2021, 12:06:44 PM »

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1362442526867783680

https://twitter.com/thestefansmith/status/1362444922104774661

https://twitter.com/mcfaul/status/1362455033279700992

(ETA it’s fake)

https://twitter.com/dougblandry/status/1362408482809540612

https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1362418963196485634

Think he cleared?

Lurker · « **Reply #28 on:** February 18, 2021, 12:21:18 PM »

Quote from: Euclid on February 18, 2021, 01:47:46 AM

@mods please move this thread to the Politics board

Please?

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 18, 2021, 12:38:43 PM »

Quote from: aygart on February 18, 2021, 09:19:17 AM

#facts

Of course there were missteps here, but anyone going for the quick political shot, whether a polititian or not, is a hack. There are SO MANY factors involved. Many items being mentioned by hacks on both sides have merit to them, but none are THE thing. The TX energy market is different than any other in the country. Their regulatory schemes have both advantages and disadvantages over others. Just like any other regualtory scheme devised by man. Until this event, the TX structure has outperformed any other in the country both in reliability and in cost. There are some shortcomings in the system being laid bare here and there will probably be changes to the market. SOme of the shortcomings were either known or foreseeable and some not.

Please don't bring reason to a flame war

aygart · « **Reply #30 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:10:32 PM »

Quote from: Yehuda57 on February 18, 2021, 12:38:43 PM

Please don't bring reason to a flame war

Those angry Republicans

AsherO · « **Reply #31 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:12:35 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumG
(ETA it’s fake)
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What's fake?

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on February 18, 2021, 12:06:44 PM
https://twitter.com/dougblandry/status/1362408482809540612

https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1362418963196485634

Think he cleared?

Why would he do a quick turn at CUN? Is he mileage running? Escorting a relative? Running drugs? Sudden change of heart?

What happened?

Euclid · « **Reply #32 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:15:53 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on February 18, 2021, 01:12:35 PM

Why would he do a quick turn at CUN? Is he mileage running? Escorting a relative? Running drugs? Sudden change of heart?

What happened?

Quote from: Lurker on February 18, 2021, 12:21:18 PM

Please?

Ahem

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:29:54 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on February 18, 2021, 12:06:44 PM

Think he cleared?

Definitely. This flight was clearly a plan B

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #34 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:30:21 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on February 18, 2021, 01:12:35 PM

Why would he do a quick turn at CUN? Is he mileage running? Escorting a relative? Running drugs? Sudden change of heart?

What happened?

He deserted to Cancun and decided to come back when he was caught and shamed for it (TVs crews are already waiting at IAH). He's already at ~44% approval vs 45% approval.

Quote from: Yehuda57 on February 18, 2021, 01:29:54 PM