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Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?

Yes.
1 (2.4%)
Yes, but nothing compared to last year.
17 (40.5%)
No.
13 (31%)
In some communities there will be but not in others.
11 (26.2%)

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2021, 11:59:09 PM »
I don't think that even the pessimists among us thought that it would get as bad as it did, or last as long.  We also didn't know as much about it as we do now, such as how to prevent spread etc. 

Those who don't care, and will therefore throw caution to the winds, did so last year, will do so this year, and will continue to do so in the future.  The difference is that many of those already had it, and will therefore be less likely to endanger others with their carelessness.

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2021, 12:00:11 AM »
By last Purim is was obvious NYC would look like Italy within a few weeks.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2021, 12:06:18 AM »
FTFY, anyone with half a brain, and saw what was happening in Italy knew that if there was one case in the frum community there would be 100,000 cases after Purim, the only question was if there was one case, now we know there was.
By last Purim is was obvious NYC would look like Italy within a few weeks.

I didn't see this coming by Purim. There were people who did, but they were the exception, not the rule. Let's not rewrite history here.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2021, 12:15:49 AM »
I didn't see this coming by Purim. There were people who did, but they were the exception, not the rule. Let's not rewrite history here.
There were frum people in NY sick with Covid before Purim. I donít know who foresaw it and who didnít but it was completely obvious NY was the next Italy. When I brought it up at the Purim Seuda I was told Ďnah Italians are weird peopleí.

On March 8 I booked a ticket to escape NYC. Purim was March 9. I left on the 16th just a few days before borders started shutting down around the world for Americans.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2021, 12:17:21 AM »
There were frum people in NY sick with Covid before Purim. I donít know who foresaw it and who didnít but it was completely obvious NY was the next Italy. When I brought it up at the Purim Seuda I was told Ďnah Italians are weird peopleí.

On March 8 I booked a ticket to escape NYC. Purim was March 9. I left on the 16th just a few days before borders started shutting down around the world for Americans.
There were people who did, but they were the exception, not the rule. Let's not rewrite history here.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2021, 12:20:15 AM »

I don't know how many people understood it, but it was objectively obvious. People didn't internalize a situation that was clear as day.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר Ė יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2021, 01:44:24 AM »
I don't know how many people understood it, but it was objectively obvious. People didn't internalize a situation that was clear as day.

At the time thatís exactly how I felt. Its not like Iím a psychic or super genius, there are plenty here that are much wiser than me that didnít anticipate it. However my dealings with China made me investigate COVID thoroughly and even back then there was overwhelming evidence, it just seemed inevitable it will hit us hard unless we made major changes.

I was secretly praying for cases to be discovered before Purim, I was sure many parties would be canceled and people wouldíve taken it more seriously.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2021, 02:09:39 AM »
At the time thatís exactly how I felt. Its not like Iím a psychic or super genius, there are plenty here that are much wiser than me that didnít anticipate it. However my dealings with China made me investigate COVID thoroughly and even back then there was overwhelming evidence, it just seemed inevitable it will hit us hard unless we made major changes.

I was secretly praying for cases to be discovered before Purim, I was sure many parties would be canceled and people wouldíve taken it more seriously.
We all knew it was real & incoming... But didn't want to believe it... I definitely saw it coming! I remember as if it was yesterday watching the purim crowds & swallowing hard...
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2021, 08:38:10 AM »
Some houses in Boro Park were so jammed and had huge lines yesterday.   I'm starting to get a little concerned here.   :(
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2021, 09:25:27 AM »
By last Purim is was obvious NYC would look like Italy within a few weeks.
Maybe to you.

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2021, 10:33:19 AM »
Some houses in Boro Park were so jammed and had huge lines yesterday.   I'm starting to get a little concerned here.   :(
There were some huge parties here and there but overall the streets were quite (relatively) empty.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2021, 10:48:09 AM »
Some houses in Boro Park were so jammed and had huge lines yesterday.   I'm starting to get a little concerned here.   :(

Some shuls in BP were jam packed for the past 10 months. There hasn't been an iota of covid compliance for the past couple months. Why do you think Purim will cause an outbreak?

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2021, 11:03:02 AM »
Some shuls in BP were jam packed for the past 10 months. There hasn't been an iota of covid compliance for the past couple months. Why do you think Purim will cause an outbreak?

In communities where there have been zero restrictions for many months and are squashed every day and Shabbos in shul, with weddings just as before, I see no reason why the name Purim makes that much of a difference. If there was a problem, it was a problem the week before, and if not, then Purim isn't that much more.

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2021, 11:14:14 PM »
I saw some truly unbelievable lines by a gvir giving out gelt in Boro Park.They were waiting down the block all the way up the stairs to a big house.To be honest it makes me nervous. I have heard of frum people coming down with covid very recently, including a yeshiva guy in BMG who had been attending a huge packed beis medrash for many months without contracting covid  , only to come down with it now. Covid acts in strange ways.
I read in a Crown Heights report just before Purim, that there had been 40 new cases in the last 7 days and 130 since the beginning of February.Interesting that they write that 3 are appear to be reinfections.Crown Heights had been very hard hit so you would not expect so many new cases, unless the fact that many people from overseas and out of state visit there. https://crownheights.info/communal-matters/724975/covid-19-update-for-crown-heights-52-continued-cases-in-crown-heights-and-a-reminder-to-remain-cautious/

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2021, 11:57:51 AM »
First community alert went out about positive cases post Purim. The people were in and out of a bunch of houses without masks over Friday and Shabbos.
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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2021, 01:18:32 PM »
My rov in CLE has Covid
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2021, 04:25:08 PM »
First community alert went out about positive cases post Purim. The people were in and out of a bunch of houses without masks over Friday and Shabbos.

And now a baal koreh tested positive  :'(
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Hearing from several friends in CLE and MIA with COVID symptoms popping up today.
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