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Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?

Yes.
1 (2.4%)
Yes, but nothing compared to last year.
17 (40.5%)
No.
13 (31%)
In some communities there will be but not in others.
11 (26.2%)

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #100 on: March 08, 2021, 05:14:08 PM »
My chavrusa was informed by the doctor at Friendly Urgent care that they have seen ~25 cases of people with prior antibodies getting reinfected in the last week. His cousin with *very* recent antibodies (tested within the last month) tested positive as well.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #101 on: March 08, 2021, 05:16:47 PM »
My chavrusa was informed by the doctor at Friendly Urgent care that they have seen ~25 cases of people with prior antibodies getting reinfected in the last week. His cousin with *very* recent antibodies (tested within the last month) tested positive as well.
Reinfected as in positive PCR or symptomatic?
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #102 on: March 08, 2021, 05:33:42 PM »
Reinfected as in positive PCR or symptomatic?
Positive PCR.. that is how they diagnose the symptomatic patients who arrive. I don’t fully understand your question.

As for their first infection, I thought it was clear that the patients had previously tested positive for antibodies at said Urgent Care.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #103 on: March 08, 2021, 05:34:40 PM »
Positive PCR.. that is how they diagnose the symptomatic patients who arrive. I don’t fully understand your question.
His question was it just a positive PCR, or they also had symptoms
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« Reply #104 on: March 08, 2021, 05:35:26 PM »
His question was it just a positive PCR, or they also had symptoms
They were symptomatic then confirmed with a PCR.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #105 on: March 08, 2021, 06:34:50 PM »
My chavrusa was informed by the doctor at Friendly Urgent care that they have seen ~25 cases of people with prior antibodies getting reinfected in the last week. His cousin with *very* recent antibodies (tested within the last month) tested positive as well.

It’s probably not known, but I wonder what the breakdown is for time between infections for these 25 patients.
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Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #106 on: March 08, 2021, 07:08:20 PM »
My chavrusa was informed by the doctor at Friendly Urgent care that they have seen ~25 cases of people with prior antibodies getting reinfected in the last week. His cousin with *very* recent antibodies (tested within the last month) tested positive as well.
Weird. Friendly's just did a data dump into Chemed's tracker and they did *not* notate that these are suspected reinfections (either previous PCR+/antibodies/covid-like illness).

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #107 on: March 08, 2021, 07:11:51 PM »
Weird. Friendly's just did a data dump into Chemed's tracker and they did *not* notate that these are suspected reinfections (either previous PCR+/antibodies/covid-like illness).
Is that usually notated?
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #108 on: March 08, 2021, 07:15:33 PM »
Is that usually notated?
Occasionally - but reinfection has really only been occasional so hard to know if they've been deliberate about it. I'm making the assumption that if they think it's becoming a real issue that they would denote it...

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #109 on: March 09, 2021, 10:38:00 PM »
48 new cases in Lakewood yesterday.

Regular for recently. No Purim surge. I didn't expect one.

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #110 on: March 09, 2021, 10:54:18 PM »
48 new cases in Lakewood yesterday.

Regular for recently. No Purim surge. I didn't expect one.
Chemed tracker has also been holding steady.

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #111 on: March 10, 2021, 09:21:07 AM »
48 new cases in Lakewood yesterday.

Regular for recently. No Purim surge. I didn't expect one.

The numbers to this point do not show any spike but I'm curious, why did you not expect one?

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #112 on: March 10, 2021, 09:23:52 AM »
The numbers to this point do not show any spike but I'm curious, why did you not expect one?
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #113 on: March 10, 2021, 09:43:52 AM »
The numbers to this point do not show any spike but I'm curious, why did you not expect one?

Because people mingled every day in shul, yeshiva, weddings. I didn't think that Purim would be more of a trigger.

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #114 on: March 10, 2021, 09:45:28 AM »
Very significant uptick in my community. This is without a community party.

I'd be willing to call it an outbreak now. The most significant spread in my community since this all began.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #115 on: March 10, 2021, 09:49:49 AM »
I would imagine that different communities took different  amounts of precautions over Purim. While numerous DDFers have reported that Lakewood saw no uptick, other places may have had a lot more partying. Or were you referring to  Lakewood as well?

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #116 on: March 10, 2021, 09:54:22 AM »
I would imagine that different communities took different  amounts of precautions over Purim. While numerous DDFers have reported that Lakewood saw no uptick, other places may have had a lot more partying. Or were you referring to  Lakewood as well?

If you're replying to me, I'm not in Lakewood. There was no partying by us, just reckless behavior.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #117 on: March 10, 2021, 10:23:19 AM »
Anecdote: Was just in Chemed this morning and the covid testing was almost empty. 1 (other) frum person and a handful (5-6) of non-jewish people. I've never seen it so quiet.

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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #118 on: March 10, 2021, 10:26:24 AM »
Anecdote: Was just in Chemed this morning and the covid testing was almost empty. 1 (other) frum person and a handful (5-6) of non-jewish people. I've never seen it so quiet.
Been like that for a few weeks now already.
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Re: Will This Purim Cause Another Frum Outbreak?
« Reply #119 on: March 10, 2021, 10:33:23 AM »
48 new cases in Lakewood yesterday.

Regular for recently. No Purim surge. I didn't expect one.
It's definitely looking promising, but I'd give it another week before being confident that there really is no purim surge.

Because people mingled every day in shul, yeshiva, weddings. I didn't think that Purim would be more of a trigger.
We've seen that shuls and yeshivas or otherwise going about your daily life were not the major sources of spread, weddings are. I was worried that many more people going around and coming in contact with people they don't usually come in contact with would lead to more spread.
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