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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2023, 09:42:44 PM »
I believe it's quoting the rogachover that mordechai and רוב אחיו were arguing in מחלוקת בבלי וירושלמי

I know that the Rebbe told the story of the Rogatchover, that when he was asked to get involved in askanus he responded that it is a מחלוקת בבלי וירושלמי referring to this chiluk.

I don't know if this story was told in the context of Mordechai.

ETA: The Rebbe connected the story of the Rogatchover to the difference in approach between Mordechai and מקצת סנהדרין.

Here is the Sicha - https://beta.hebrewbooks.org/reader/reader.aspx?sfid=16076#p=386&fitMode=fitwidth&hlts=&ocr=
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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2023, 09:55:35 PM »
(The posuk says Rotzui l'rov echav - the Sanhedrin did not agree that he went into politics.)

Minor correction; the gemara says פרשו ממנו מקצת סנהדרין. The implication is that the majority of the Sanhedrin agreed with his actions.

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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2023, 12:37:02 PM »
https://yated.com/my-take-on-the-news-300/

Rabbah or Rava?

On that note, the maggid shiur of our daf yomi shiur, Rav Eliyohu Yitzchok Pincus, always comes up with a teirutz to any kashya that is put to him. Even if the teirutz seems incredibly unlikely, he feels that he cannot allow a question to go unanswered. On one occasion, someone told him that he found a particular answer to be unsatisfying. Rav Eliyohu responded by quoting the Gemara’s account of how Rabbah killed Rabi Zeira during a Purim seudah.

“Many have asked a kashya: How is it possible that Rabbah would kill Rabi Zeira?” Rav Eliyohu said. “Some answer that there is a different girsa of the text of the Gemara, in which the story deals with Rava rather than Rabbah.”

Of course, this evoked a storm of objections from the shiur’s participants: What difference did it make whether the Amora in question was Rabbah or Rava? The same question should apply to Rava: How could he have killed Rabi Zeira?

Rav Eliyohu smiled and replied loudly, “Well, we answered the kashya on Rabbah, and now you are left with a kashya on Rava. That is a different question, and we will deal with it at another time….”

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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2023, 09:05:45 PM »
On each of the many home baked good we receive each Purim, there is a note that states that it is פרווה וישן. The "פרווה" is obvious, that everyone would want to know the item is pareve. But the "וישן" what's p'shat? How many of the community members are actually makpid on Yoshon? A small minority. So, why is everyone going out of their way to make Yoshon goods for Mishloach Manos?
The answer is that we want to counter the claim of mefuzar umeforad, that we don't care about each other, so we show how much we care even about the mi'ut.
So we take the ו" החיבור" and move it to the beginning to make "וישן" to flip the עלילה which begins with "ישנו".
Small people talk about other people.
Average people talk about things
BIG PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS.

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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2023, 03:25:29 AM »
On each of the many home baked good we receive each Purim, there is a note that states that it is פרווה וישן. The "פרווה" is obvious, that everyone would want to know the item is pareve. But the "וישן" what's p'shat? How many of the community members are actually makpid on Yoshon? A small minority. So, why is everyone going out of their way to make Yoshon goods for Mishloach Manos?
The answer is that we want to counter the claim of mefuzar umeforad, that we don't care about each other, so we show how much we care even about the mi'ut.
So we take the ו" החיבור" and move it to the beginning to make "וישן" to flip the עלילה which begins with "ישנו".
Maybe another Phshat is that its Meramez to 16 Nissan, the day Haman was killed, which is the day all flour/mezonos turns to Yashan.

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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2024, 01:13:18 PM »
Wrote this for Purim last year.
This year's is being written. Can be sung to any version of Yom Shabason, version I had in mind was Eitan Katz.
Would appreciate haaros.

יום שישתו כל זמן שיש כח, ויש שינוחו כמו נח.

יום ששון אין לשכוח, זכרו כריח הניחוח, יום שישתו כל זמן שיש כח, ויש שינוחו כמו נח.
יום שישתו

היום נקבע לבני הפרזים (מוקפים), זהירים לשמוע שתי פעמים, סיפור של שני חסידי הימים, מרדכי ואסתר אמיצי כח.
יום שישתו

ובאו כולם בברית יחד, קימו וקבלו כאחד, לתת לאביונים כולם כאחד, ברוך הנותן לכל הפושט יד.
יום שישתו

דבר בקדשם בשושן, ימי המשתה והששון, וכל ייניו יחד לגמור, חזק מתנים ושתה בכח.
יום שישתו

העם אשר נע כצאן וכדומה, יזכור לשלוח כפול מנה, לבעל יעבור אפילו זרה, ולתת אוכל כתיבת נח.
יום שישתו


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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2024, 12:28:26 PM »
This year's is being written. Can be sung to any version of Yom Shabason, version I had in mind was Eitan Katz.
Would appreciate haaros.
Tweaked a bit.
יום שישתו כל זמן שיש כח, ויש שינוחו כמו נח.

יום ששון אין לשכוח, זכרו כריח הניחוח, יום שישתו כל זמן שיש כח, ויש שינוחו כמו נח. יום שישתו

היום נקבע לבני הפרזים (מוקפים), זהירים לשמוע שתי פעמים, סיפור של שני חסידי הימים, מרדכי ואסתר אמיצי כח. יום שישתו

ובאו כולם בברית יחד, קימו וקבלו כאחד, לתת מתנה לכל הפושט יד, ברוך הנותן, יישר כח! יום שישתו

דבר בקדשם בשושן, ימי המשתה והששון, וכל ייניו יחד לגמור, חזק מתנים ושתה בכח. יום שישתו

העם אשר נע כצאן וכדומה, יזכור לשלוח כפול מנה, לבעל יעבור אפילו זרה, ולתת אוכל כתיבת נח. יום שישתו
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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2024, 12:38:47 PM »
Purim Kiddush. Works best if each line is sung in the proper way (ie taamim for the pesukim, nusach for the parts of tefilah, songs as sung, the krias shma as krias shema, and don't forget the yekkishe shir hamaalos). By zeh chalifasi, you have to wave the cup of wine over your head.


ויהי ערב ויהי בקר יום השלישי ותלבש אסתר מלכות ותעמוד בחצר בית
המלך! יושב איאיאיא על כסה רם ונישא שוכן עד מרום וקדוש
שמו של מלך מלכי המלכים הקב"ה בעולמות ש
ברא אלוקים את השמים ואת הארץ. וה
ארץ חטה ושאורה ו
גפן פוריה בירכתי ביתיך
ובשארך. המלאך הגואל אותי מכל רע
יברך את בית ישראל יברך את בית אהרון
הכהן צינדט אן דער מנורה. און אט זעה איך א הערליכען געזיכט. עס שיינט זיין פנים מיט א ג-ט’ליכן ליכט אויף זיין קאפ א גאלדענעם קרוין- איך דערקען עם שוין, דאס איז דער מלך
המשיח אני מאמין ואף על פי שיתמהמה אם כל
זה חליפתי זה תמורתי זה כפרתי זה הכוס ילך לבטן ואנחנו נכנס ו
נלך בבנינו ובבנותינו בצאנינו ובבקרינו נלך כי
חג המצות ובחג השבועות ובחג הסוכות ולא יראו את פני ד' ריקם איש כמתנת ידו
כברכת ד' צור משלו אכלנו
ברכו את ד' המבורך! ברוך ד' המבורך
לעולם יהי אדם ירא שמים בסתר ובגלוי ומודה על האמת
כי אתה הוא יוצרם ואתה יודע יצרם כי
בנו בחרת ואותנו קדשת מכל העמים וימי הפורים האלה לא יעברו מתוך היהודים וזכרם לא יסוף מזרעם
בא"י אמ"ה בורא פרי הגפן.
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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2024, 12:44:06 PM »
Hineni.

הנני העני מן המס: נרעד ונשמח משמחת שמיעת חכמי ישראל, באתי לעמוד ולבקש מלפניך על ייני ישראל אשר שתתוני, אף על פי שאיני כדי והגון לכך. לכן אבקש ממכם בני אברהם בני יצחק ובני יעקב: יין, יין, קברנה ברדו ומרלו שרדונה זינפנדל, לבן רוזה או אדום... ותגער בשטן לבל ישטיניני

Google translate
I am the poor of the tax: we tremble and rejoice at the joy of hearing the sages of Israel, I have come to stand and ask before you for the things of Israel that you will give me, even though I am not worthy and worthy of it. That's why I will ask you sons of Abraham, sons of Isaac and sons of Jacob: wine, wine, Cabernet Bardot and Merlot Chardonnay Zinfandel, white rosé or red... and rebuke Satan for Bel Yashtinini...
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Re: Purim Torah
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2024, 06:48:17 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/387252

UN condemns Jews for genocide against Haman
UN demands cessation of all gragger spinning. Ahashveros confused again - cannot seem to tell the difference between Haman and Mordechai.


Edward Finkelstein
  Mar 24, 2024, 5:56 AM (GMT+2)

Susa - Magila News Service (16 Adar)

The United Nations issued a strong condemnation against the Jews after the brutal hangings of Haman his ten sons and the widespread murders of Amaekites throughout the Persian Empire.

Haman, a high level government official who was implementing a massive wealth redistribution program aimed at equity for Persians had been the victim of a nasty smear campaign led by Mordecai.

Mordecai led the Jews in harassing Haman and hindering his free speech after Haman started calling Jews an “alien influence that needed to be eradicated.” Haman’s followers explained that Haman’s words were not meant to be taken literally but rather were exhortations to fight oppression.

The crisis has been worsened by Jews engaging in festive meals and swinging noisemakers to celebrate the death of Haman.

King Achashverosh's seems confused, first backing Haman, then switching to Mordechai's side and then backing Haman again, threatening to stop helping Mordechai if the food exchanges between Jews do not include what he called "starving Persians". Our investigative reporter, however, reports Persian markets filled with food and non-involved civilians gorging on schwarma.

On Adar 14 and 15, rumors were rife that Achashverosh was inebriated when in his speech to the Persian nation, he could not tell the difference between Haman and Mordechai. Others claim he is confused, as usual.

Finally, controversy has enveloped the royal family as rumors concerning Queen Esther’s alien origins, connections to Haman and Mordecai and her role in the murders spread through the capital.

Palace spokesmen declined to comment.
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