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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2021, 11:33:53 AM »

So the guy who came up with the HCQ and Zelenko copied, was a simple fraudster...
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2021, 12:25:27 PM »
Okay, it's my [real] job to study research. So here goes.
It's extremely unlikely that 60% of household contacts contracted Covid (the rate of transmission would be much higher than 1 if that was the case)
 
https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleId=30113&publicid=743

And even if all contacts were infected, less than 60% would be symptomatic.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201009/86-percent-of-the-UKs-COVID-19-patients-have-no-symptoms.aspx

The simpler explanation is that the study is bogus.
"Bogus"?  Is this right-wing media, where name calling takes the place of thoughtful discourse? 

The authors give further limitations of this study, which they agree has its problems.  They don't seem to be lying, or intentionally misleading their readers.
But they are.

Based on global averages, out of 110 household contacts, youíd expect 30 Covid infections, and around 15 of them symptomatic.

This study found 4x global averages. That is an irreconcilable discrepancy.

It is either fundamentally flawed or intentionally fraudulent, and either way it is completely bogus.

Standing up for something that is way outside the realm of possibility isnít thoughtful discourse.

Looks like @PlatinumGuy hit the nail on the head.
https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-5cc079278602
https://steamtraen.blogspot.com/2021/07/Some-problems-with-the-data-from-a-Covid-study.html
https://grftr.news/why-was-a-major-study-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19-just-retracted/
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2021, 12:35:19 PM »
The latest I've heard about Ivermectin is that it's amazing for treating long-Covid. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2021, 12:40:20 PM »
The latest I've heard about Ivermectin is that it's amazing for treating long-Covid. Lather, rinse, repeat.

The COVID-denier I know, just told me his grow. sonís COVID just went away hours after he took ivermectin. Itís possible that son got my kid (and subsequently my family) infected. #justsaying

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2021, 04:56:56 PM »
I shoulda known that someone who knew Jack Ma's whereabouts would also know when a research paper was fraudulent.

PG is an intelligence asset in China...

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2021, 05:46:51 PM »
PG is an intelligence asset in China...

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2021, 10:40:13 PM »
The Jerusalem Post: Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day.
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2021, 10:48:22 PM »
The Jerusalem Post: Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day.
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-be-treated-for-under-1day-675612

I stopped reading at ďreducing viral shedding in non-hospitalized patientsĒ which isnít the same as ďtreating COVIDĒ. Outcomes like hospitalization, intubation, and death, are what really changes things. Unless youíll suggest to me that Ivermectin nips COVID in the bud, but thatís it doesnít do.

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2021, 10:04:43 AM »
https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/ivermectin-causes-sterilization-in-85-percent-of-men-study-finds/

The study seems very suspicious and is not in a mainstream journal and is not considered a side effect by the FDA, but seems more reliable than anything showing Ivermectin to be effective to treat COVID  or anything showing an effect from vaccines.😁
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2021, 10:11:16 AM »
https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/ivermectin-causes-sterilization-in-85-percent-of-men-study-finds/

The study seems very suspicious and is not in a mainstream journal and is not considered a side effect by the FDA, but seems more reliable than anything showing Ivermectin to be effective to treat COVID  or anything showing an effect from vaccines.😁

If itís local to one part of Nigeria, there could be other environmental factors there. The study has no sperm samples from before the ivermectin, nor a control group of participants with similar demographics who didnít take ivermectin to compare to.

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2021, 10:17:47 AM »
If itís local to one part of Nigeria, there could be other environmental factors there. The study has no sperm samples from before the ivermectin, nor a control group of participants with similar demographics who didnít take ivermectin to compare to.

They had a built-in control, but the people using this don't need the study to have been done scientifically.

In this study we screened a total of 385 patients who were diagnosed of onchocerciasis. Out of which, 37 (9.6%) were eligible for further tests, as their sperm counts were normal while the remaining patients had very low sperm counts and were therefore not used for further tests or were too weak after the preliminary screening tests and were not considered eligible for further test/studies.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #52 on: September 09, 2021, 10:36:54 AM »
https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/ivermectin-causes-sterilization-in-85-percent-of-men-study-finds/

The study seems very suspicious and is not in a mainstream journal and is not considered a side effect by the FDA, but seems more reliable than anything showing Ivermectin to be effective to treat COVID  or anything showing an effect from vaccines.
Did they consider testing for horse sperm

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2021, 10:39:06 AM »
Did they consider testing for horse sperm
They only do that in the South here.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2021, 01:48:09 PM »
https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/ivermectin-causes-sterilization-in-85-percent-of-men-study-finds/

The study seems very suspicious and is not in a mainstream journal and is not considered a side effect by the FDA, but seems more reliable than anything showing Ivermectin to be effective to treat COVID  or anything showing an effect from vaccines.😁

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2021, 02:35:20 PM »
So you see how they are covering it up
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2021, 02:40:27 PM »
So you see how they are covering it up

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Ivermenctin was planted by the FDA/CDC to sterilize dissenters. :P

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2021, 02:41:12 PM »


Ivermenctin was planted by the FDA/CDC to sterilize dissenters.
But it works for covid
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2021, 07:52:19 PM »
https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/ivermectin-causes-sterilization-in-85-percent-of-men-study-finds/

The study seems very suspicious and is not in a mainstream journal and is not considered a side effect by the FDA, but seems more reliable than anything showing Ivermectin to be effective to treat COVID  or anything showing an effect from vaccines.😁


The Zelenko Protocol was developed by me using hydroxychloroquine. I subsequently added the use of ivermectin when it was shown to work.

The devolved pagans have done everything possible to suppress access to these medication and have provided false fear mongering to the sheepish public.

The newest garbage on ivermectin is that a medication used billions of times is being blamed for reduction of sperm count in patients with river blindness from a Nigerian study from 2011.

Oh really, perhaps it is the parasitic disease that damage the scrotum of affected patients.

https://sti.bmj.com/content/80/1/12

Stop being stupid sheep.

Vladimir Zev Zelenko MD

P.S. Dear devolved pagans. You could have come with something more credible than a 10 year old study from Nigeria. I expect better.

( i dont have access to link so no idea what it leads to)

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2021, 10:59:07 PM »

The Zelenko Protocol was developed by me using hydroxychloroquine. I subsequently added the use of ivermectin when it was shown to work.

The devolved pagans have done everything possible to suppress access to these medication and have provided false fear mongering to the sheepish public.

The newest garbage on ivermectin is that a medication used billions of times is being blamed for reduction of sperm count in patients with river blindness from a Nigerian study from 2011.

Oh really, perhaps it is the parasitic disease that damage the scrotum of affected patients.

https://sti.bmj.com/content/80/1/12

Stop being stupid sheep.

Vladimir Zev Zelenko MD

P.S. Dear devolved pagans. You could have come with something more credible than a 10 year old study from Nigeria. I expect better.

( i dont have access to link so no idea what it leads to)


I thought this was sarcasm until I saw the author  :)