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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2021, 11:04:42 PM »


I thought this was sarcasm until I saw the author  :)
I was just waiting for him to quote the CDC. Anti vaxxers conundrum
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #61 on: September 17, 2021, 12:15:38 AM »
This fertility affect is still more proven than anything from the vaccine

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #62 on: September 17, 2021, 11:01:15 AM »
Pleasantly surprised to find this in the mishpacha's family first magazine.


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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2021, 11:03:50 AM »
Pleasantly surprised to find this in the mishpacha's family first magazine.
Why pleasantly?
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #64 on: September 17, 2021, 11:04:55 AM »
Why pleasantly?
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Ivermectin
« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2021, 11:06:26 AM »
Pleasantly surprised to find this in the mishpacha's family first magazine.



Nothing yells 'legitimate medical organization' more than referring to covid as "corona" (in the US) and having a Gmail address.

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #66 on: September 17, 2021, 11:12:42 AM »
Why pleasantly?
I guess it is a good thing they put it in the same category as vitamin d.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #67 on: September 17, 2021, 11:12:51 AM »
Nothing yells 'legitimate medical organization' more than referring to covid as "corona" (in the US) and having a Gmail address.
You call it whatever you'd like.
2 can be right at the same time.
It's what we've learnt as jews for a looooong time.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #68 on: September 17, 2021, 11:14:37 AM »
You call it whatever you'd like.
2 can be right at the same time.

Listen, there is ZERO indication at all that Ivermectin does anything beneficial. Anyone pushing it shouldn't be trusted for anything more than a band-aid.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2021, 11:20:12 AM »
Listen, there is ZERO indication at all that Ivermectin does anything beneficial. Anyone pushing it shouldn't be trusted for anything more than a band-aid.
Right. So the fact that there are thousands of doctors who believe in it, counts for nothing according to you.
The fact that thousands have been cured of covid within 2-3 days of taking Ivermectin counts nothing to you.

I've personally seen success stories with ivermectin.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2021, 11:37:43 AM »
Right. So the fact that there are thousands of doctors who believe in it, counts for nothing according to you.
The fact that thousands have been cured of covid within 2-3 days of taking Ivermectin counts nothing to you.

I've personally seen success stories with ivermectin.

SHOW ME THE DATA

The one "study" showing that it did something was retracted because it was bogus and the "researchers" straight out lied.
Almost all of the people who say they saw miraculous recoveries are the same ones who say there is nothing for any of those same people to recover from.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2021, 12:04:33 PM »
SHOW ME THE DATA

The one "study" showing that it did something was retracted because it was bogus and the "researchers" straight out lied.
Almost all of the people who say they saw miraculous recoveries are the same ones who say there is nothing for any of those same people to recover from.
SHOW ME THE DATA! You're making my point.
The reason the FDA ousts any recommendation for Ivermectin is- 'There hasn't been enough studies to prove its success against fighting covid'
The vaccine has gone through vigorous studies. Correct?
Why can't they do the same for ivermectin? Who's stopping them?
It took them until recently to decide to have it tested in clinical trials. I believe John Hopkins is doing it.
Bravo.
Damage has already been done.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2021, 12:15:07 PM »
Wait until Pfizers anticovid drug comes out. Ofcourse it will be tested for safety & efficacy, & all will praise the drug as the magic cure! (Never mind how soon & fast they are magically able to pull off the studies...)
While a safe drug called Ivermectin which has been around since 1987 has barely had 1 proper study performed to prove its effectiveness against covid.
Hmmmmm...
But there's ZERO proof!
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2021, 12:26:06 PM »
Wait until Pfizers anticovid drug comes out. Ofcourse it will be tested for safety & efficacy, & all will praise the drug as the magic cure! (Never mind how soon & fast they are magically able to pull off the studies...)
While a safe drug called Ivermectin which has been around since 1987 has barely had 1 proper study performed to prove its effectiveness against covid.
Hmmmmm...
But there's ZERO proof!


That because pfizer pays for the study to be done and has a lot of experience on how to get them done as fast as possible.

Who is going to pay for Ivermectin? Takes time till someone decides it is worth it to investigate. Then they need to plan and convince hospital/doctors to get people into the study. Ask yourself which study would someone be more likely to be participate in Pfizer or ivermectin.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2021, 12:27:32 PM »
SHOW ME THE DATA! You're making my point.
The reason the FDA ousts any recommendation for Ivermectin is- 'There hasn't been enough studies to prove its success against fighting covid'
The vaccine has gone through vigorous studies. Correct?
Why can't they do the same for ivermectin? Who's stopping them?
It took them until recently to decide to have it tested in clinical trials. I believe John Hopkins is doing it.
Bravo.
Damage has already been done.

Wait until Pfizers anticovid drug comes out. Ofcourse it will be tested for safety & efficacy, & all will praise the drug as the magic cure! (Never mind how soon & fast they are magically able to pull off the studies...)
While a safe drug called Ivermectin which has been around since 1987 has barely had 1 proper study performed to prove its effectiveness against covid.
Hmmmmm...
But there's ZERO proof!
NO NO NO NO NO! There are a number of studies showing that it does nothing at all!
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #75 on: September 17, 2021, 12:28:42 PM »

That because pfizer pays for the study to be done and has a lot of experience on how to get them done as fast as possible.
And proper studies are unimportant for a cheap drug... Even if it has the potential to save thousands of lives.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #76 on: September 17, 2021, 12:49:16 PM »
SHOW ME THE DATA! You're making my point.
The reason the FDA ousts any recommendation for Ivermectin is- 'There hasn't been enough studies to prove its success against fighting covid'
The vaccine has gone through vigorous studies. Correct?
Why can't they do the same for ivermectin? Who's stopping them?
It took them until recently to decide to have it tested in clinical trials. I believe John Hopkins is doing it.

There have been many studies on Ivermectin and COVID, too many to read.

I would suggest looking at a review article, which summarizes the research that's been done by others.  The Cochrane Library is particularly respected for its review articles, so you might want to start there.  What's nice is that after the scientific abstract, they include a Plain Language Summary which is easy to understand.  If you find that helpful, you can continue to read the article itself.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #77 on: September 17, 2021, 01:02:10 PM »
The fact that thousands have been cured of covid within 2-3 days of taking Ivermectin counts nothing to you.

There are likely "millions" who've been "cured" of COVID "within 2-3 days" without taking ivermectin too. The vast majority of those people drank water, should we thus conclude that water cures COVID?

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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #78 on: September 17, 2021, 01:07:19 PM »
There have been many studies on Ivermectin and COVID, too many to read.

I would suggest looking at a review article, which summarizes the research that's been done by others.  The Cochrane Library is particularly respected for its review articles, so you might want to start there.  What's nice is that after the scientific abstract, they include a Plain Language Summary which is easy to understand.  If you find that helpful, you can continue to read the article itself.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full
Would you know if they used zinc, vitamin D along with the ivermectin in their trials? The vitamins are equally important in helping treat covid.
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Re: Ivermectin
« Reply #79 on: September 17, 2021, 01:08:36 PM »
Would you know if they used zinc, vitamin D along with the ivermectin in their trials? The vitamins are equally important in helping treat covid.
Are you able to access the article through that link?