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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2021, 10:21:46 PM »
OK, my brother in law from Philly is heading down to the cemetery tomorrow morning to have a look.
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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2021, 10:22:05 PM »
That seems to match the details in this obituary, which seems to be a different person as the wife and children are different than the ones OP mentioned.
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42464479/obituary-for-saul-goldstein/ seems like a different one
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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2021, 10:22:14 PM »
Great job!  I can retire now.  :)

GOLDSTEIN August 14, 1972 DR. SAUL, Husband of Rae (nee Ingber) of 254 Wiltshire Rd., Wyrmewood, Pa. Father of Dr. Jay Goldstein and Mrs. Janice Giudicelll. Son of Louis and the late Katie Goldstein. Brother of Dr. Maurice Goldstein, Relatives and friends are invited to funeral services Wed-1!2:30 P.M. precisely, "GOLDSTEINS'", 6410 N. Broad St. Int. Roosevelt Memorial Park. Family will return to 254 Wiltshire Rd., Wynnewood, Pa. Family requests that contributions in his memory be made to your favorite charity.

The only thing I'd add is that if the funeral home can't help, and if nobody can make it to the Roosevelt Memorial Park (2701 Old Lincoln Highway, Trevose, PA 19053) then you might try the Rabbis in Wynnewood, where he had lived.  The orthodox shul is Beth Hamedrosh  https://www.bethhamedrosh.org/ and if they don't know, they might be able to refer you to the rabbi who had been there in the 1970s, or you could try the conservative and reform rabbis.

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2021, 10:23:04 PM »
OK, my brother in law is heading down to the cemetery tomorrow morning to have a look.
Can't you see it yourself from up there?  :P

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2021, 10:24:12 PM »

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2021, 10:29:25 PM »
https://www.ancestry.com/search/categories/34/?name=Saul_Goldstein

Their marriage is the 5th result here, but I don't have an account...

You may be able to get FREE access to ancestry.com until the end of September (at least).  Even for those not interested in genealogy, it can provide a few hours of entertainment during the long summer days, looking for where your ancestors were decades ago. 

Many libraries subscribe to the Library Edition of Ancestry, which you can use for free if you're sitting in the library, and now they've made it accessible remotely to anyone with a library card.  You need to first check if your local library has it, and then you'll need to enter the serial number of your library card to use it.

The Library Edition has passenger lists of immigrants, census records until 1940, phone and address directories, military records, school yearbooks,  and more.  The Library Edition does NOT include the ability to post your personal family tree. 

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2021, 10:34:06 PM »
Great job!  I can retire now.  :)

GOLDSTEIN August 14, 1972 DR. SAUL, Husband of Rae (nee Ingber) of 254 Wiltshire Rd., Wyrmewood, Pa. Father of Dr. Jay Goldstein and Mrs. Janice Giudicelll. Son of Louis and the late Katie Goldstein. Brother of Dr. Maurice Goldstein, Relatives and friends are invited to funeral services Wed-1!2:30 P.M. precisely, "GOLDSTEINS'", 6410 N. Broad St. Int. Roosevelt Memorial Park. Family will return to 254 Wiltshire Rd., Wynnewood, Pa. Family requests that contributions in his memory be made to your favorite charity.

The only thing I'd add is that if the funeral home can't help, and if nobody can make it to the Roosevelt Memorial Park (2701 Old Lincoln Highway, Trevose, PA 19053) then you might try the Rabbis in Wynnewood, where he had lived.  The orthodox shul is Beth Hamedrosh  https://www.bethhamedrosh.org/ and if they don't know, they might be able to refer you to the rabbi who had been there in the 1970s, or you could try the conservative and reform rabbis.
That helped me find this:
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/rae-goldstein-obituary?pid=786079

GOLDSTEIN RAE (nee Ingber) Feb. 7, 2003, wife of the late Saul; mother of Dr. Jay Goldstein and Janice Giudicelli; sister of Leonore Toll and Renee Stein; grandmother of Jordan Gold and Ariane Giudicelli. Services and Int. were private. Contributions in her memory may be made to Greenwood House, 53 Walter St., Ewing, NJ 08628. GOLDSTEINS' ROSENBERG'S RAPHAEL SACKS
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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2021, 10:41:22 PM »
Mrs. Janice Giudicelll.

Looks like she passed away in 2017. The burial was handled by Bloomfield-Cooper Jewish Chapels, Ocean, NJ. They may have some names.
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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2021, 10:51:49 PM »
It looks like husband and wife are buried in different cemeteries. 
Dr. Saul's father was a Dr. Louis, and there's a Dr. Louis Goldstein (Eliezer b. Moshe) in Roosevelt Park, while there are a number of Ingbers at Mount Carmel, so perhaps they just happened to have a single plot in each.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/181160725/louis-goldstein

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2021, 10:55:49 PM »
Not sure how

GOLDSTEIN RAE (nee Ingber) Feb. 7, 2003
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 Greenwood House, 53 Walter St., Ewing, NJ 08628.


fits with
Mother (Rae) passed in early to mid 80s. She lived in a nursing home prior.
Both definitely lived in Philly till they passed

but the maiden name and kids names check out.
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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2021, 11:09:41 PM »
Not sure how
fits with
but the maiden name and kids names check out.
Ewing, NJ is right near Bucks County, Pa. Both are very close to Philly.

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2021, 11:19:01 PM »
Ewing, NJ is right near Bucks County, Pa. Both are very close to Philly.

Right. The location didn't throw me as much as the 20 year difference.
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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2021, 12:16:11 AM »
OK, my brother in law from Philly is heading down to the cemetery tomorrow morning to have a look.

Wow! Thank you (and him)!

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2021, 12:23:16 AM »
Do you know Jay's birthday? Birth year?

I do not have Jay's DOB or year at this point. I hope to have it tomorrow.

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2021, 12:25:09 AM »
Great job!  I can retire now.  :)

GOLDSTEIN August 14, 1972 DR. SAUL, Husband of Rae (nee Ingber) of 254 Wiltshire Rd., Wyrmewood, Pa. Father of Dr. Jay Goldstein and Mrs. Janice Giudicelll. Son of Louis and the late Katie Goldstein. Brother of Dr. Maurice Goldstein, Relatives and friends are invited to funeral services Wed-1!2:30 P.M. precisely, "GOLDSTEINS'", 6410 N. Broad St. Int. Roosevelt Memorial Park. Family will return to 254 Wiltshire Rd., Wynnewood, Pa. Family requests that contributions in his memory be made to your favorite charity.

The only thing I'd add is that if the funeral home can't help, and if nobody can make it to the Roosevelt Memorial Park (2701 Old Lincoln Highway, Trevose, PA 19053) then you might try the Rabbis in Wynnewood, where he had lived.  The orthodox shul is Beth Hamedrosh  https://www.bethhamedrosh.org/ and if they don't know, they might be able to refer you to the rabbi who had been there in the 1970s, or you could try the conservative and reform rabbis.

Wow! Thank you for this!

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2021, 12:27:17 AM »
I do not have Jay's DOB or year at this point. I hope to have it tomorrow.
Was Jay ever married? By any chance to a Gail Coplin?
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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2021, 12:29:33 AM »
Was Jay ever married? By any chance to a Gail Coplin?

Yes, and yes

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2021, 12:30:20 AM »
Do you know Jay's birthday? Birth year?

5/8/43

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Re: Please help find a niftar's parents Jewish names.
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2021, 12:42:11 AM »
This might be the mother's sister:

https://www.geni.com/people/Renee-Ingber-Stein/6000000012079664265

@Something Fishy This was a good idea. 

Searching on Rae's sisters shows that they and their husbands are all at Roosevelt Park, so it's likely Rae is too.  Maybe call that cemetery before driving anywhere. 

Renee Ingber Stein and Rubin Stein
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182213059/renee-stein
Has photo, but I don't see Hebrew names

Lee (Leonore) Ingber Toll
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/legacy/obituary.aspx?n=lee-toll&pid=195017095&fhid=4366

Albert Toll
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/111069603/albert-c.-toll
Has photo and Hebrew names

Actually, before driving anywhere, you might want to look for phone numbers of the people listed in the Lee Toll's obit, which is very recent, and the names are googlable.  Her children might know the Hebrew name of their aunt.

And a touching tribute to the niftar's aunt and uncle, Lee and Al Toll.  They sound like they would've enjoyed DDF:
https://jewishphilly.org/memorial-tributes/