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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #200 on: March 11, 2021, 10:01:25 AM »
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #201 on: March 11, 2021, 10:04:45 AM »
Lol. Funny story.

My point was exactly opposite. People take the anti eruv side very to heart, while you have(/had) some of the biggest poskim who were not only matir the eruv, but were very involved in getting it up and running, such as Rav Fishel Hershkovitz zatzal and Rav Yechezkel Roth zatzal. The Sederheili Ruv, Rav Chaim Leib Katz Shlita currently maintains it. These are big people who can definitely be relied upon. So if you don't rely on it for whatever reason, personal or other, don't make a big stink if someone does. Enjoy his non mevushal wine (and go to the Kosel ;)).
Considering the big rabbanim on this side, we're in very good company. When you hear a Gadol Hador say "but in Boro Park bedavka not" when discussing what you can do in an eiruv that you don't use, you would aslo look at it differently.
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #202 on: March 11, 2021, 10:07:29 AM »
Considering the big rabbanim on this side, we're in very good company. When you hear a Gadol Hador say "but in Boro Park bedavka not" when discussing what you can do in an eiruv that you don't use, you would aslo look at it differently.
Can you rephrase that? As an aside (again), I don't know what a Gadol HaDor is. Back in the day it meant Avimelech and the rich and famous. Is it a big Rosh Yeshiva or Rebbe? Or someone who Paskens Shaalos and is qualified to offer an opinion on a Halachik Shaala?

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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #203 on: March 11, 2021, 10:13:35 AM »
Can you rephrase that? As an aside (again), I don't know what a Gadol HaDor is. Back in the day it meant Avimelech and the rich and famous. Is it a big Rosh Yeshiva or Rebbe? Or someone who Paskens Shaalos and is qualified to offer an opinion on a Halachik Shaala?
Yes.
He was asked if you can wear a watch in an eiruv that you don't use. The response was based on R' Moshe's shittah that the reason not to wear a watch is because people will think you can carry a pocket watch, so even if you don't use the eiruv people will say "he's using the eiruv" instead of "you're allowed to carry a watch". He then finished by saying "but in Boro Park you should bedavka not".
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #204 on: March 11, 2021, 10:17:55 AM »
Yes.
He was asked if you can wear a watch in an eiruv that you don't use. The response was based on R' Moshe's shittah that the reason not to wear a watch is because people will think you can carry a pocket watch, so even if you don't use the eiruv people will say "he's using the eiruv" instead of "you're allowed to carry a watch". He then finished by saying "but in Boro Park you should bedavka not".
Ok. That answers my second question, too. That doesn't address my point that some of the biggest *poskim* were behind that Eiruv. So no matter what the biggest *Rosh Yeshivas* feel about it (for possibly other reasons than Halachik (not getting into that), those who use it definitely have on who to rely on (to put it mildly).

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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #205 on: March 11, 2021, 10:36:05 AM »
For those still following, we're now touching on who is/isn't a Gadol HaDor, Roshei Yeshivos vs Poskim, and who may or may not be going to hell. If you feel there's a third rail topic we haven't hit yet, please chime in.
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #206 on: March 11, 2021, 10:38:33 AM »
For those still following, we're now touching on who is/isn't a Gadol HaDor, Roshei Yeshivos vs Poskim, and who may or may not be going to hell. If you feel there's a third rail topic we haven't hit yet, please chime in.
Well, has COVID been mentioned yet?
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #207 on: March 11, 2021, 10:40:39 AM »
For those still following, we're now touching on who is/isn't a Gadol HaDor, Roshei Yeshivos vs Poskim, and who may or may not be going to hell. If you feel there's a third rail topic we haven't hit yet, please chime in.
Well, has COVID been mentioned yet?
Is a buchor allowed to carry a picture of a girl to his rebbe (Insert your own fav one) on shabbos in bp w/o a mask... that should cover all

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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #208 on: March 11, 2021, 10:42:54 AM »
For those still following, we're now touching on who is/isn't a Gadol HaDor, Roshei Yeshivos vs Poskim, and who may or may not be going to hell. If you feel there's a third rail topic we haven't hit yet, please chime in.
Close, but no cigar. :)

I was poking fun at the modern terminology of Gadol HaDor, it is meaningless at best. I wasn't ranking people as Gadol HaDor because that term is irrelevant.

The second thing, I was pointing out the differences between a Rosh Yeshiva, Rebbe, a Rav, and a Posek. They are not the same and serve different functions and people should stop making a Kugel and a chulent out of the 4.

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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #209 on: March 11, 2021, 10:47:52 AM »
Close, but no cigar. :)

I was poking fun at the modern terminology of Gadol HaDor, it is meaningless at best. I wasn't ranking people as Gadol HaDor because that term is irrelevant.

The second thing, I was pointing out the differences between a Rosh Yeshiva, Rebbe, a Rav, and a Posek. They are not the same and serve different functions and people should stop making a Kugel and a chulent out of the 4.
Is everyone limited to just one of these titles? A Rosh Yeshiva, Rebbe, or Rav can definitely be a posek as well. If you took my response to your previous post to mean he is not a major Posek, then you misunderstood.
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #210 on: March 11, 2021, 10:52:27 AM »
Is everyone limited to just one of these titles? A Rosh Yeshiva, Rebbe, or Rav can definitely be a posek as well. If you took my response to your previous post to mean he is not a major Posek, then you misunderstood.
Definitely not limited to one of the above. Can definitely be more than one.

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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #211 on: March 11, 2021, 10:53:17 AM »
A Rosh Yeshiva, Rebbe, or Rav can definitely be a posek as well.

If you don't believe in this one, which classification would you give to any of these (in no specific order) and many others.

Rav Moshe Feinstein ZTL
Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky ZTL
Rav Belsky ZTL
Rav Dovid Feinstein ZTL

yibadlu lchaim
Rav Shmuel Kaminetztky
Rav Yisroel Reisman
Rav Shlomo Miller
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #212 on: March 11, 2021, 10:53:35 AM »
Yes.
He was asked if you can wear a watch in an eiruv that you don't use. The response was based on R' Moshe's shittah that the reason not to wear a watch is because people will think you can carry a pocket watch, so even if you don't use the eiruv people will say "he's using the eiruv" instead of "you're allowed to carry a watch". He then finished by saying "but in Boro Park you should bedavka not".
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #213 on: March 11, 2021, 10:55:17 AM »
If you don't believe in this one, which classification would you give to any of these (in no specific order) and many others.

Rav Moshe Feinstein ZTL
Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky ZTL
Rav Belsky ZTL
Rav Dovid Feinstein ZTL

yibadlu lchaim
Rav Shmuel Kaminetztky
Rav Yisroel Reisman
Rav Shlomo Miller
And then there were those who held all four titles.

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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #214 on: March 11, 2021, 10:56:57 AM »
If you don't believe in this one, which classification would you give to any of these (in no specific order) and many others.

Rav Moshe Feinstein ZTL
Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky ZTL
Rav Belsky ZTL
Rav Dovid Feinstein ZTL

yibadlu lchaim
Rav Shmuel Kaminetztky
Rav Yisroel Reisman
Rav Shlomo Miller

As you clearly don't believe yibadlu lchaim is a Rav, is he a Rosh Yeshivah? A posek?
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #215 on: March 11, 2021, 11:06:00 AM »
Close, but no cigar. :)

I was poking fun

I understood. I haven't really been taking this part of the conversation seriously. Not my world.
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #216 on: March 11, 2021, 11:10:45 AM »
As you clearly don't believe yibadlu lchaim is a Rav, is he a Rosh Yeshivah? A posek?
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #217 on: March 11, 2021, 11:13:41 AM »
Is a buchor allowed to carry a picture of a girl to his rebbe (Insert your own fav one) on shabbos in bp w/o a mask... that should cover all

Is he allowed to point out a masked girl to his non-posek (poser?) Rebbe on Shabbos?...

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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #218 on: March 11, 2021, 11:18:54 AM »
I haven't really been taking this part of the conversation seriously. Not my world.
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Re: Would this change the shidduch picture conversation?
« Reply #219 on: March 12, 2021, 09:54:43 AM »
Is he allowed to point out a masked girl to his non-posek (poser?) Rebbe on Shabbos?...
Maybe if everyone just submits their pictures with masks on (maybe put on a face shield for good measure)THAT would change the shidduch picture conversation :P