Something Fishy's First Trip to Israel - Planning Thread

[yelped]

Sorry, I fail to see any point you're trying to make then.

Really? Try to UnSatmar yourself and look at it with open eyes.

Dan asked why we don't focus on increasing the frum presence in all areas of EY and Israeli society in order to have a truly Jewish country? So I posted a letter from 1941 supporting his outlook.

Is that clear enough?

[EliJelly]

Really? Try to UnSatmar yourself and look at it with open eyes.

Dan asked why we don't focus on increasing the frum presence in all areas of EY and Israeli society in order to have a truly Jewish country? So I posted a letter from 1941 supporting his outlook.

Is that clear enough?

Ahh.. It was a question to satmar why they don't take the Rav Kook's (and this Rebbe's) approach instead.. I'm sure that wasn't Dan's question. And you my friend with equating the two still have a whole lot to learn

[yelped]

Ahh.. It was a question to satmar why they don't take the Rav Kook's (and this Rebbe's) approach instead.. I'm sure that wasn't Dan's question. And you my friend with equating the two still have a whole lot to learn

Yeah, I know what you want me to learn. That the Satmarer Chassidim think their Rebbe is G-D and Rav Kook exactly opposite.

[EliJelly]

Yeah, I know what you want me to learn. That the Satmarer Chassidim think their Rebbe is G-D and Rav Kook exactly opposite.

So much intellect. Enjoy your day.

[yelped]

And you my friend with equating the two still have a whole lot to learn

So much intellect. Enjoy your day.

Your words, Sir.

[Something Fishy]

Maybe split the thread into a "Frum Views of Zionism"?

Nah, you kids have fun, it's nice to see a bunch of Lubavitchers arguing about the Satmar shitta .

When I get back to planning the trip I'll clean this place up lol.

[ExGingi]

Nah, you kids have fun, it's nice to see a bunch of Lubavitchers arguing about the Satmar shitta .

When I get back to planning the trip I'll clean this place up lol.

So I guess you agree with me (@aygart or @TimT where's that quote about everyone being Lubavitchers). 

[Yehuda57]

Nah, you kids have fun, it's nice to see a bunch of Lubavitchers arguing about the Satmar shitta .

When I get back to planning the trip I'll clean this place up lol.

Lol, but I don't think the Lubavitchers are the ones discussing Satmar shitos, just espousing our own.

[yungermanchik]

Harav Mordechai Gifter Ztl [Yom Ha'atzmaut in Halacha & Hashkafa]

[mushkovits]

Harav Mordechai Gifter Ztl [Yom Ha'atzmaut in Halacha & Hashkafa]

Beautiful! Thanks

[yeshivaman]

I'm plannin a trip as well. Does anyone know of nightly rentals in Meron?

[arye her]

After reading most of this thread here are a few points

•   If renting a car (which I would recommend outside of J’lem) you might have issues with GPS signal it gets frozen sometimes (had it with Verizon) you might want to rent a GPS or find out if this is a Verizon issue.
•   When renting a car go thru an agent as the prices online doesn’t include mandatory insurance and you might also need additional proof from your CC that they cover Israel rentals (DM me for agent contact)
•   I would recommend minimum 2 days besides Shabbos in J’lem
•   Dead sea area is doable in one day
•   Driving to kever Ruchel should be ok as it’s right outside of J’lem, driving to Chevron I wouldn’t do myself on a first trip to Israel
•   When going to Tzfas, a tour in old city with all the shops is a must IMO. Take a guide for all the shuls and shops
•   There are plenty of tzimer rentals in Tzfas you can find online Airbnb, Booking, ETC.
•   I heard the blind museum is amazing although I was never there

[JMHO]

•   I heard the blind museum is amazing although I was never there

There's nothing to see there!

[justmeha]

There's nothing to see there!

Wrong thread
Corny Jokes & Bad Puns Thread

[yelped]

There's nothing to see there!

You have to know how to look.

[ltttc]

There's nothing to see there!

Try it and then come back here to post. The Deaf Museum is also unbelievable! Our guide has us laughing and crying throughout. Was actually a very eye opening and fun experience- highly recommend!

[rufieg3]

Looking for someone that gives sunrise tour in Masada

[Something Fishy]

Aaaand tickets booked (at least for the return lol): first ever family trip to Israel! Time to revive this thread.

Starting from zero is honestly an extremely weird sensation for someone who plans trips for a living, but Israel is just something I've never had to plan before. With so many people having mountains of experience on the subject here, I thought I'll sit back and benefit from others' experiences for a change .

I've gone through it all, and I think I have a pretty good framework.

Thoughts and details are welcome!


General idea, with some questions and notes below:

Wednesday:
Arrive TLV in the evening. Head to Jlem for dinner and bed.

Thursday:
Probably wake up late. Breakfast, Kosel (GEVAAAAAALD), Har Hazeisim (family and Ohr Hachaim), Kever Rochel. Seems that I have time left, see below.

Friday:
Shuk, Kikar Hashabbos, Mea Sharim, wander about, get ready for Shabbos. Kosel Friday night.

Shabbos:
Visit family, nap...

Sunday:
Head north. Hula Valley in the morning, then Amuka/Meron//Tzfas/Teveria.

Monday:
Masada, Ein Gedi, Yam Hamelech.

Tuesday:
Early morning TLV departure.


Itinerary notes:
- Thu: Any other kvarim to know about on Har Hazeisim?
- Thu: Looking into tours for Thursday. I've reached out to @satturn and am waiting on an answer, but I specifically need something that a 12-year old girl would enjoy.
- Thu: Order of things will probably change to accomodate tour timing.
- Sha: Anything else to do on Shabbos? What about Motzei Shabbos?
- Sun: Amuka/Meron//Tzfas/Teveria: obviously impossible to do in one day (or even a week I'm guessing). What are the area highlights that CAN be done in a day?
- Mon: Is that order correct? Or should I save one particular spot for sunset. We're not going to hike up Masada.


General notes:
- I'll most likely stay in an apartment in Jlem throughout. No sense is switching places on such a short trip.
- I think I can get away with not having a car until after Shabbos, no?
- Blind Museum has no availability during my stay at all unfortunately.

So.... what do you say?

[Dan]

Aaaand tickets booked (at least for the return lol): first ever family trip to Israel! Time to revive this thread.

I've gone through it all, and I think I have a pretty good framework.

Thoughts and details are welcome!


General idea, with some questions and notes below:

Wednesday:
Arrive TLV in the evening. Head to Jlem for dinner and bed.

Thursday:
Probably wake up late. Breakfast, Kosel (GEVAAAAAALD), Har Hazeisim (family and Ohr Hachaim), Kever Rochel. Seems that I have time left, see below.

Friday:
Shuk, Kikar Hashabbos, Mea Sharim, wander about, get ready for Shabbos. Kosel Friday night.

Shabbos:
Visit family, nap...

Sunday:
Head north. Hula Valley in the morning, then Amuka/Meron//Tzfas/Teveria.

Monday:
Masada, Ein Gedi, Yam Hamelech.

Tuesday:
Early morning TLV departure.


Itinerary notes:
- Thu: Any other kvarim to know about on Har Hazeisim?
- Thu: Looking into tours for Thursday. I've reached out to @satturn and am waiting on an answer, but I specifically need something that a 12-year old girl would enjoy.
- Thu: Order of things will probably change to accomodate tour timing.
- Sha: Anything else to do on Shabbos? What about Motzei Shabbos?
- Sun: Amuka/Meron//Tzfas/Teveria: obviously impossible to do in one day (or even a week I'm guessing). What are the area highlights that CAN be done in a day?
- Mon: Is that order correct? Or should I save one particular spot for sunset. We're not going to hike up Masada.


General notes:
- I'll most likely stay in an apartment in Jlem throughout. No sense is switching places on such a short trip.
- I think I can get away with not having a car until after Shabbos, no?
- Blind Museum has no availability during my stay at all unfortunately.

So.... what do you say?

1. Tour chevron: https://hebronfund.trekksoft.com/en/activity/book/309900/the-hebron-fund-tour
2. Your itinerary is bonkers. You can't do the north Sunday and Masada/dead sea Monday 

[Something Fishy]

2. Your itinerary is bonkers. You can't do the north Sunday and Masada/dead sea Monday 

Why's that?

#I'mClueless