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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2021, 08:57:45 AM »
As are all the other things he mentioned.
I guess we could mention take them out back and shoot them.  ::)
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #61 on: September 10, 2021, 08:58:26 AM »
I guess we could mention take them out back and shoot them.  ::)
Not the point he or I was making.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #62 on: September 10, 2021, 09:00:06 AM »
Not the point he or I was making.
Explain your point then.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #63 on: September 10, 2021, 09:01:30 AM »
Not the point he or I was making.
What is your point? That a terrorist who blows up himself and victims should be treated equally by limited amount of emergency responders and they shouldn't prioritize the victims over the attacker?
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2021, 09:03:02 AM »
woah you took that for a long trip.
I thought the analogy was pretty clear and direct.

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #65 on: September 10, 2021, 09:04:06 AM »
I thought the analogy was pretty clear and direct.
Then please explain how because I don't see it
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2021, 09:04:24 AM »
Explain your point then.
It's unprecedented for hospitals to discriminate on any grounds, once the door is opened it will be subject to the moral flavor of the day.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2021, 09:05:03 AM »
What is your point? That a terrorist who blows up himself and victims should be treated equally by limited amount of emergency responders and they shouldn't prioritize the victims over the attacker?
You do know that that's how it currently works? Come to Israel and see for yourself. Jewish doctors have saved terrorists lives countless times.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2021, 09:06:03 AM »
You do know that that's how it currently works?
Correct but the 2 of you seem to be advocating otherwise
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2021, 09:06:14 AM »
I thought the analogy was pretty clear and direct.
It was an analogy and not sarcasm.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2021, 09:06:22 AM »
Correct but the 2 of you seem to be advocating otherwise
Not at all. As I said, once the door is opened who knows where it will go. Better keep it closed.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #71 on: September 10, 2021, 09:07:52 AM »
It's unprecedented for hospitals to discriminate on any grounds, once the door is opened it will be subject to the moral flavor of the day.
How would they currently prioritize when there are inadequate resources? Would the trauma team in the hospital treat the terrorists and the victims equally?
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #72 on: September 10, 2021, 09:08:34 AM »
Not at all. As I said, once the door is opened who knows where it will go. Better keep it closed.
But you said it is already open
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #73 on: September 10, 2021, 09:09:19 AM »
How would they currently prioritize when there are inadequate resources? Would the trauma team in the hospital treat the terrorists and the victims equally?
I don't think there is a rule that would let them discriminate based on that. Most probably age or chance if survival. Whether they would make their own decisions in that situation is something else entirely.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2021, 09:09:31 AM »
It's unprecedented for hospitals to discriminate on any grounds, once the door is opened it will be subject to the moral flavor of the day.
Are you aware in Italy they prioritized young people over the elderly? I guess that wasn't discrimination?
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #75 on: September 10, 2021, 09:10:30 AM »
But you said it is already open
Where. I said no such thing.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #76 on: September 10, 2021, 09:12:30 AM »
Are you aware in Italy they prioritized young people over the elderly? I guess that wasn't discrimination?
Age and survival chances have both been used to discriminate. I don't like it but it's an entirely different equation. They are not weighing how "worthy" a person is based on a judgment of their actions.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2021, 09:13:08 AM »
Where. I said no such thing.
Maybe I misunderstood this
You do know that that's how it currently works? Come to Israel and see for yourself. Jewish doctors have saved terrorists lives countless times.
So you are saying that if the first responder bumps into the terrorist forest he will work on him over the victim a few steps away who will die of left unattended?
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #78 on: September 10, 2021, 09:15:11 AM »
Maybe I misunderstood this So you are saying that if the first responder bumps into the terrorist forest he will work on him over the victim a few steps away who will die of left unattended?
As I said, he might make his own decision, I don't think there is a rule that would let him discriminate. In that setting his decision is what counts, but when the situation is in a hospital like you mentioned earlier, I believe the call would not be allowed to be based on anything other than age of chance of survival.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #79 on: September 10, 2021, 09:16:52 AM »
Age and survival chances have both been used to discriminate. I don't like it but it's an entirely different equation. They are not weighing how "worthy" a person is based on a judgment of their actions.
Nothing about worthy. If unvaccinated are more likely to become seriously ill and die then that is not discrimination. Treat the the vaccinated first who have a better chance of survival. Same as the young have a better chance vs the elderly.
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