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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #640 on: December 08, 2021, 03:14:25 PM »
I don't think so, but it's the equivalent of what some are suggesting. I don't have an issue with them giving a discount for being vaccinated, as long as they can do the same for anything else that leaves you less likely to get sick etc. just like we have for car insurance.
It is commonly done already. Currently I have 2 discounts on my health insurance:
1) non-tobacco user, 2) yearly physical (prior year).

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #641 on: December 08, 2021, 03:21:17 PM »
I don't think so, but it's the equivalent of what some are suggesting. I don't have an issue with them giving a discount for being vaccinated, as long as they can do the same for anything else that leaves you less likely to get sick etc. just like we have for car insurance.
It is commonly done already. Currently I have 2 discounts on my health insurance:
1) non-tobacco user, 2) yearly physical (prior year).

I was thinking the same thing. Itís effectively the same, where youíre reducing the less-risky subsidizing the increased risk of riskier policyholders, since insurance is risk-pooling after all.

But itís framed differently and IMHO much more reasonably: Rates are the same for everyone,
But youíre given discount for proving certain risk-mitigation.

A corollary (for how framing as a discount makes the same effective charge more palatable) is where retailers werenít allowed to charge a premium for paying with credit cards, so instead offered a discount for other payment methods.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #642 on: December 08, 2021, 03:22:18 PM »
So, could health insurers in the US offer a discount to policyholders who are vaccinated? Why donít they?

ETA: Discussed here https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hblog20210927.915947
« Last Edit: December 08, 2021, 03:25:31 PM by AsherO »
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #643 on: December 08, 2021, 03:30:48 PM »
It is commonly done already. Currently I have 2 discounts on my health insurance:
1) non-tobacco user, 2) yearly physical (prior year).

Would be interesting to see how much the insurance companies would be willing to discount for a covid vax. With the outcomes as they are now, I'd be quite surprised if it was worth it for them to offer any sort of meaningful discount.

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #644 on: December 08, 2021, 04:02:03 PM »
So, could health insurers in the US offer a discount to policyholders who are vaccinated? Why donít they?

ETA: Discussed here https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hblog20210927.915947
They are not going to give a discount unless they raise premiums for all first. Charge them a surcharge.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #645 on: December 08, 2021, 04:15:09 PM »
Would be interesting to see how much the insurance companies would be willing to discount for a covid vax. With the outcomes as they are now, I'd be quite surprised if it was worth it for them to offer any sort of meaningful discount.
I'm dying to know the insurance companies' data on this

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #646 on: December 08, 2021, 04:17:25 PM »
I'm dying to know the insurance companies' data on this
Is there a vaccine against deadly curiosity?

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #647 on: December 08, 2021, 04:19:17 PM »
Is there a vaccine against deadly curiosity?
Yearly CAT scans?

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #648 on: December 08, 2021, 04:21:14 PM »
Yearly CAT scans?
Sounds costly for the hospitals. We all know curiosity killed the catscan machine.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #649 on: December 08, 2021, 04:22:11 PM »
Sounds costly for the hospitals. We all know curiosity killed the catscan machine.
Na, that was the magnetism from the Covid vaccine.




ETA: oops that broke the MRI machine

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #650 on: December 08, 2021, 04:54:00 PM »
They are not going to give a discount unless they raise premiums for all first. Charge them a surcharge.
Not under Obamacare
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #651 on: December 08, 2021, 05:26:33 PM »
What does "proudly vaccinated" mean?

That they publicly say that they are vaccinated, and that they think that getting vaccinated is a good idea for most people.

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #652 on: December 08, 2021, 05:29:35 PM »
That they publicly say that they are vaccinated, and that they think that getting vaccinated is a good idea for most people.
Maybe say "common sense vaccinated"?  :)
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #653 on: December 14, 2021, 12:17:32 AM »
Lets keep playing politics and blaming each other as more people unnecessarily die.  >:(
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #655 on: December 15, 2021, 10:03:19 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/us-passenger-railroad-amtrak-suspends-vaccine-mandate-for-employees/ar-AAROcor?ocid=st
Even with some if not most suspending the mandate it did work. IMHO it was the right thing to do.

Flynn said 95.7% of Amtrak's 17,000 employees are either fully vaccinated or have an accommodation -- and including employees with one dose 97.3% of employees are in compliance.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #656 on: December 15, 2021, 10:45:20 AM »
Even with some if not most suspending the mandate it did work. IMHO it was the right thing to do.

Flynn said 95.7% of Amtrak's 17,000 employees are either fully vaccinated or have an accommodation -- and including employees with one dose 97.3% of employees are in compliance.

How about 100%  :P

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #657 on: December 15, 2021, 11:22:08 AM »
How about 100%  :P
I think UA is around 99%.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #658 on: December 15, 2021, 09:38:26 PM »

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #659 on: December 17, 2021, 09:23:23 PM »
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