Vaccine Mandates

[yuneeq]

This isn't just true for COVID, compare life expectancy in the first world to the third world, a lot of that is attributable to healthcare.

Correct, but COVID is specifically worse than most cases because the patient is forced to stay in the 3rd world country.

[AsherO]

For covid are we a first or third world country? 

For spread mitigation we fools, for treatment I'd say we're still first world.

[AsherO]

Correct, but COVID is specifically worse than most cases because the patient is forced to stay in the 3rd world country.

Indeed. Or figure out some really complex/exceptional medical transport.

[Euclid]

Indeed. Or figure out some really complex/exceptional medical transport.

Seems like he was eventually medivaced to Florida

[yuneeq]

Seems like he was eventually medivaced to Florida

Took him weeks to do so as a state senator. Guessing it’s not any easier for the rest of the population.

[CountValentine]

For spread mitigation we fools, for treatment I'd say we're still first world.

If our treatment is so good then why are so many dying? By population we are around 20 (deaths) out of 200+ countries. Doesn't sound like a first world country to me.

[S209]

Hatzalah's letter

Link?

[S209]

If our treatment is so good then why are so many dying? By population we are around 20 (deaths) out of 200+ countries. Doesn't sound like a first world country to me.

Because so many people choose ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine over the actual treatments available.

[AsherO]

If our treatment is so good then why are so many dying? By population we are around 20 (deaths) out of 200+ countries. Doesn't sound like a first world country to me.

What about our fatality rate compared to third world countries? Numbers will skew because we test higher.

If your average American were to be hospitalized with COVID, would they prefer a US hospital (not when they're overrun obviously), or an El Salvadorian one?

[CountValentine]

What about our fatality rate compared to third world countries? Numbers will skew because we test higher.

If we are 20 out of 200+ countries there would have to be some we consider 3rd world doing better than us.

[yelped]

If we are 20 out of 200+ countries there would have to be some we consider 3rd world doing better than us.

If those 3rd world numbers can be trusted.

[avromie7]

If we are 20 out of 200+ countries there would have to be some we consider 3rd world doing better than us.

Like China, they haven't had a single COVID death since February 2020.

[CountValentine]

Like China, they haven't had a single COVID death since February 2020.

Yes there are countries like that. The US has also been underreporting but not on the scale as China, Iran, ect.

If you want to go through the list and report back, have at it. 

[yuneeq]

Does any American want US at #1? Surely the US could’ve done a better job but based on what worked for some countries I am happy we are not #1.

[CountValentine]

Does any American want US at #1?

The same can be asked about being #20 out of 200+ countries, no?
A better question would be where we should be? Now there would be disagreement but the lower half I would hope we could all agree on.

[yuneeq]

A better question would be where we should be?

Good question probably want to be higher than 20 but not sure what spot.

[avromie7]

The same can be asked about being #20 out of 200+ countries, no?
A better question would be where we should be? Now there would be disagreement but the lower half I would hope we could all agree on.

I haven't seen the list, but I would split it into 3 sections (using the real numbers). Top section would be 3rd world countries, bottom is the crazies like NZ and AU, and the middle is everyone else

ETA: For CFR the US is around 85

[CountValentine]

Over and over it is the same story. The majority in the hospital/dying are the unvaccinated. Time to punish this criminal activity.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/after-cleveland-hospitals-take-out-ad-begging-for-help-doctor-says-were-in-crisis-here-in-ohio-071449178.html

[CountValentine]

SCOTUS seems to be pretty clear on these mandates.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/supreme-court-justice-rejects-challenge-to-new-mexico-s-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAS2bOT?ocid=msedgntp

[CountValentine]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-to-hear-challenges-to-biden-s-covid-19-vaccine-rules/ar-AAS4AvF?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531