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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #881 on: January 04, 2022, 10:03:11 PM »

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #882 on: January 04, 2022, 10:04:58 PM »
Didn't read the article, but at this point, what do antibodies help? It seems to be irrelevant for Omicron.
Not sure if it is irrelevant.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #883 on: January 05, 2022, 12:35:45 AM »
Didn't read the article, but at this point, what do antibodies help? It seems to be irrelevant for Omicron.

Irrelevant for infection, or for severe disease? It seems to be relevant for both, albeit marginally for the former, for the latter it’s significant.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #884 on: January 05, 2022, 09:30:15 AM »
Irrelevant for infection, or for severe disease? It seems to be relevant for both, albeit marginally for the former, for the latter it’s significant.
Is it? Your body should still ramp up antibodies in time.

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #885 on: January 05, 2022, 09:44:04 AM »
Is it? Your body should still ramp up antibodies in time.
Source?
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #886 on: January 05, 2022, 01:58:51 PM »
Is it? Your body should still ramp up antibodies in time.

I meant antibodies from a pre-Omicron infection aren't necessarily effective in preventing an Omicron infection.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #887 on: January 05, 2022, 02:34:59 PM »
I meant antibodies from a pre-Omicron infection aren't necessarily effective in preventing an Omicron infection.
That for sure.

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #888 on: January 05, 2022, 02:35:34 PM »
Source?
That eventually your body should ramp back up antibodies after a reinfection?

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #891 on: January 06, 2022, 09:42:19 AM »
with the 4th Jab now for some in a year, don't they realize how ridiculous this is? the jab does nothing. they can still get sick with covid, still transmit, just like any non vaxxed. Im literally baffled at this point what exactly the vaccine does. If you will say they get less sick, well even non vaxxed are being less sick now when they get covid.

so what exactly does the vaccine do?

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #892 on: January 06, 2022, 10:10:09 AM »
so what exactly does the vaccine do?
To people who believe every crackpot out there, nothing.
If you believe doctors and science, just the opposite?
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #893 on: January 06, 2022, 11:36:39 AM »
with the 4th Jab now for some in a year, don't they realize how ridiculous this is? the jab does nothing. they can still get sick with covid, still transmit, just like any non vaxxed. Im literally baffled at this point what exactly the vaccine does. If you will say they get less sick, well even non vaxxed are being less sick now when they get covid.

so what exactly does the vaccine do?
You’ve been asking the same inane question repeatedly for a year. With Omicron, finally, the case for the vaccine is as weak as it ever has been and it’s *still* quite compelling.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #894 on: January 06, 2022, 11:54:46 AM »
You’ve been asking the same inane question repeatedly for a year. With Omicron, finally, the case for the vaccine is as weak as it ever has been and it’s *still* quite compelling.

The funny thing is that the endpoints for the clinical trials as designed in 1H 2020 already already included severe disease as a major endpoint to study (comparing vaccinated patients to placebo patients).
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #895 on: January 06, 2022, 02:00:49 PM »
To people who believe every crackpot out there, nothing.
If you believe doctors and science, just the opposite?
i actually believe Doctors and Science. But I don't believe Fauci because he was very certain about details, and then backtracked.

I have personally had decent conversations with a few Doctors, they all said you must vaccinate, but when I asked why the flip flop of certain details, they all answered because we didn't know then what we know now. So how are you assertive if a year ago you didn't know.  this proves that you can't release a vaccine quickly and it needs years of trial. 

You’ve been asking the same inane question repeatedly for a year. With Omicron, finally, the case for the vaccine is as weak as it ever has been and it’s *still* quite compelling.

instead of calling people names, make a compelling argument. Just remember that details regarding vaccine change every day so whatever argument you make now might not be valid in a month from now :P
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #896 on: January 06, 2022, 02:16:33 PM »
this proves that you can't release a vaccine quickly and it needs years of trial. 
OK so your issue is the vaccine might not be safe? That position I can understand.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #897 on: January 06, 2022, 02:19:38 PM »
instead of calling people names, make a compelling argument.
Please point to where I called anyone a name.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #898 on: January 06, 2022, 02:20:28 PM »
OK so your issue is the vaccine might not be safe? That position I can understand.
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It’s one thing to pretend you believed that in December 2020, it’s a bit late to still be holding that position in 2022.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #899 on: January 06, 2022, 02:22:16 PM »
Is gas expensive? How can you assertively say gas is expensive if it wasn’t expensive last year and might be even more expensive next year?
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