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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #680 on: December 19, 2021, 11:28:21 AM »
This isn't just true for COVID, compare life expectancy in the first world to the third world, a lot of that is attributable to healthcare.

Correct, but COVID is specifically worse than most cases because the patient is forced to stay in the 3rd world country.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #681 on: December 19, 2021, 11:30:33 AM »
For covid are we a first or third world country?  :-[

For spread mitigation we fools, for treatment I'd say we're still first world.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #682 on: December 19, 2021, 11:31:18 AM »
Correct, but COVID is specifically worse than most cases because the patient is forced to stay in the 3rd world country.

Indeed. Or figure out some really complex/exceptional medical transport.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #683 on: December 19, 2021, 11:39:31 AM »
Indeed. Or figure out some really complex/exceptional medical transport.
Seems like he was eventually medivaced to Florida

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #684 on: December 19, 2021, 11:44:26 AM »
Seems like he was eventually medivaced to Florida

Took him weeks to do so as a state senator. Guessing itís not any easier for the rest of the population.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #685 on: December 19, 2021, 11:44:41 AM »
For spread mitigation we fools, for treatment I'd say we're still first world.
If our treatment is so good then why are so many dying? By population we are around 20 (deaths) out of 200+ countries. Doesn't sound like a first world country to me.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #686 on: December 19, 2021, 11:49:59 AM »
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #687 on: December 19, 2021, 11:51:42 AM »
If our treatment is so good then why are so many dying? By population we are around 20 (deaths) out of 200+ countries. Doesn't sound like a first world country to me.
Because so many people choose ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine over the actual treatments available.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #688 on: December 19, 2021, 11:53:45 AM »
If our treatment is so good then why are so many dying? By population we are around 20 (deaths) out of 200+ countries. Doesn't sound like a first world country to me.

What about our fatality rate compared to third world countries? Numbers will skew because we test higher.

If your average American were to be hospitalized with COVID, would they prefer a US hospital (not when they're overrun obviously), or an El Salvadorian one?
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #689 on: December 19, 2021, 12:05:32 PM »
What about our fatality rate compared to third world countries? Numbers will skew because we test higher.
If we are 20 out of 200+ countries there would have to be some we consider 3rd world doing better than us.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #690 on: December 19, 2021, 12:11:46 PM »
If we are 20 out of 200+ countries there would have to be some we consider 3rd world doing better than us.
If those 3rd world numbers can be trusted.

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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #691 on: December 19, 2021, 12:36:02 PM »
If we are 20 out of 200+ countries there would have to be some we consider 3rd world doing better than us.
Like China, they haven't had a single COVID death since February 2020.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #692 on: December 19, 2021, 12:38:21 PM »
Like China, they haven't had a single COVID death since February 2020.
Yes there are countries like that. The US has also been underreporting but not on the scale as China, Iran, ect.

If you want to go through the list and report back, have at it.  :)
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #693 on: December 19, 2021, 12:43:33 PM »
Does any American want US at #1? Surely the US couldíve done a better job but based on what worked for some countries I am happy we are not #1.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #694 on: December 19, 2021, 12:56:28 PM »
Does any American want US at #1?
The same can be asked about being #20 out of 200+ countries, no?
A better question would be where we should be? Now there would be disagreement but the lower half I would hope we could all agree on.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #695 on: December 19, 2021, 01:07:28 PM »
A better question would be where we should be?

Good question probably want to be higher than 20 but not sure what spot.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #696 on: December 19, 2021, 01:13:11 PM »
The same can be asked about being #20 out of 200+ countries, no?
A better question would be where we should be? Now there would be disagreement but the lower half I would hope we could all agree on.
I haven't seen the list, but I would split it into 3 sections (using the real numbers). Top section would be 3rd world countries, bottom is the crazies like NZ and AU, and the middle is everyone else

ETA: For CFR the US is around 85
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #697 on: December 21, 2021, 08:32:09 AM »
Over and over it is the same story. The majority in the hospital/dying are the unvaccinated. Time to punish this criminal activity.
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Re: Vaccine Mandates
« Reply #698 on: December 22, 2021, 06:43:54 AM »
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