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Quite refreshing to see rabbonim in Lakewood come out forcefully against unscrupulous individuals who sells marijuana or marijuana related products. This is on the heals of its legalization in New Jersey.

Unfortunately some people have chosen to make money in this destructive industry. Hopefully they will come around and look for better sources of income. May this Kol Koreh will have a positive ripple effect.

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1957652/kol-koreh-dozens-of-lakewood-roshei-yeshiva-and-rabbonim-ban-sale-and-use-of-marijuana.html
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Re: Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Marijuana Related Products
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2021, 10:47:23 AM »
All cell phones were also banned at one point. And the internet. etc. It'll just take time. As society shifts on these issues it seems to me so will it shift in the frum world.




ETA: This has no reflection on my opinion about Marijuana etc. just saying it how it is.
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Re: Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Marijuana Related Products
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2021, 10:50:52 AM »
All cell phones were also banned at one point. And the internet. etc. It'll just take time. As society shifts on these issues it seems to me so will it shift in the frum world.
Nothing boosts sales like a kol korea.

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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2021, 10:51:50 AM »
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Re: Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Marijuana Related Products
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2021, 10:53:49 AM »
All cell phones were also banned at one point. And the internet. etc. It'll just take time. As society shifts on these issues it seems to me so will it shift in the frum world.
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Cell phones and the internet have positive uses, recreational marijuana does not.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Marijuana Related Products
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2021, 10:55:28 AM »
Cell phones and the internet have positive uses, recreational marijuana does not.

-1. Just because something can be abused, does not mean it does not have positive uses.
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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2021, 10:56:55 AM »
Will there be a ban on the consumption and sale of alcohol?
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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2021, 10:57:00 AM »
-1. Just because something can be abused, does not mean it does not have positive uses.
Much more downside than upside

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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2021, 10:57:30 AM »
Much more downside than upside

That can be said of many things.
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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2021, 10:58:36 AM »
-1. Just because something can be abused, does not mean it does not have positive uses.

I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2021, 10:58:45 AM »
That can be said of many things.
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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2021, 10:58:48 AM »
Unfortunately some people have chosen to make money in this destructive industry.

Would you mind explaining why you think -- if you do -- that a similar Kol Koreh should not be issued for the sale of alcohol?

Why would you give a pass to the people engaged in that "destructive industry," especially when some studies show it's more destructive than marijuana?
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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2021, 10:59:11 AM »
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Cell phones and the internet have positive uses, recreational marijuana does not.
Lol, reminded me of a guy who used to tell me that when he smokes he comes up with much better kashos on the gemara

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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2021, 10:59:32 AM »
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Cell phones and the internet have positive uses, recreational marijuana does not.
And this is how you lose all arguments. I don't know many things on earth that have no positive uses as you say about marijuana.

It really isn't my point though, as society's opinion is changing and so will the frum worlds. It's inevitable over time.
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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2021, 11:00:31 AM »
Will there be a ban on the consumption and sale of alcohol?
or cigarettes, or overreaching rabbaninim :)

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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2021, 11:01:22 AM »


With all due respect, this was written at a time when society at large viewed it as a drug on par with Class 1 narcotics and no known medical benefits. This same letter can substitute alcohol for marijuana and read the exact same way.
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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2021, 11:02:03 AM »
Would you mind explaining why you think -- if you do -- that a similar Kol Koreh should not be issued for the sale of alcohol?

Why would you give a pass to the people engaged in that "destructive industry," especially when some studies show it's more destructive than marijuana?
Almost all sales of alcohol especially in the Jewish community do not come from addiction/depression. I don't think you can say the same about weed.

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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2021, 11:02:45 AM »
Will there be a ban on the consumption and sale of alcohol?
Would you mind explaining why you think -- if you do -- that a similar Kol Koreh should not be issued for the sale of alcohol?
Alcohol being legal and alcohol being halachically ok is one of the best arguments for marijuana in general.

It's all about one's preconceived notions. So if this generation has notions that marijuana is illegal it will seem very bad as we are taught illegal things are bad. But for the next generation it will be legal and they won't have those preconceived notions like we do. That includes rabanim etc. So like I'm saying, just a matter of time.
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2021, 11:03:01 AM »
Almost all sales of alcohol especially in the Jewish community do not come from addiction/depression. I don't think you can say the same about weed.

False, and false.
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Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2021, 11:05:40 AM »
False, and false.
So most alcohol sales come from a bad intent, and weed a good intent? I hope that's not what you mean