NY Hasidic men held for over 10 hours at German airport

[Abey]

https://nypost.com/2021/03/16/ny-hasidic-men-reportedly-held-for-10-hours-at-german-airport/amp/ Unlike many other cases of mask disputes etc. this seems to be completely racism as it was many Jews not even traveling together.

[AsherO]

https://nypost.com/2021/03/16/ny-hasidic-men-reportedly-held-for-10-hours-at-german-airport/amp/ Unlike many other cases of mask disputes etc. this seems to be completely racism as it was many Jews not even traveling together.

Somehow I doubt these are all the facts.

[KSMH]

Would not be surprised if it is.
JUST FYI, there are many ppl regardless of religion, faking covid tests.

[oldguy]

Somehow I doubt these are all the facts.

I was personally involved in this story, I know the group of 5 personally and was on the phone with them while they were stuck there.
The details are 100% true, I spoke to all 5 of them...

Would not be surprised if it is.
JUST FYI, there are many ppl regardless of religion, faking covid tests.

This had nothing to do with false Covid tests, It was with the entry permits to the EU, and was mainly the attitude, There is much more info than they say here, and those details just make it worse...

[EliJelly]

I was personally involved in this story, I know the group of 5 personally and was on the phone with them while they were stuck there.
The details are 100% true, I spoke to all 5 of them...This had nothing to do with false Covid tests, It was with the entry permits to the EU, and was mainly the attitude, There is much more info than they say here, and those details just make it worse...

And what are those details?

[oldguy]

And what are those details?

I know they are in touch with a lawyer, and have the names of the agents that they were dealing with, they were looking into options, there might be reasons why some details were left out

[AsherO]

I was personally involved in this story, I know the group of 5 personally and was on the phone with them while they were stuck there.
The details are 100% true, I spoke to all 5 of them...This had nothing to do with false Covid tests, It was with the entry permits to the EU, and was mainly the attitude, There is much more info than they say here, and those details just make it worse...

You contradicted yourself. You say these are all the facts, then you say there’s more that wasn’t said.

[ExGingi]

You contradicted yourself. You say these are all the facts, then you say there’s more that wasn’t said.

Big difference between ALL FACTS and ALL THE FACTS.

[AsherO]

Big difference between ALL FACTS and ALL THE FACTS.

He quoted me suggesting not all the facts were in the article and responded with “100% true” implying these are all the facts.

[ExGingi]

He quoted me suggesting not all the facts were in the article and responded with “100% true” implying these are all the facts.

You're putting words into his mouth. He said THE DETAILS are 100% true and then went on to say there are even more details.

[AsherO]

You're putting words into his mouth. He said THE DETAILS are 100% true and then went on to say there are even more details.

Then his response to me is meaningless. I wrote these aren’t all the facts, never questioned whether any of the stated facts are true.

And he confirmed, these aren’t all the facts. His insinuation that the additional facts only make it look worse might not be the whole truth either, even if all five passengers he (allegedly) spoke to suggested that was the case.

Your distinction between all facts and all the facts stands true, but I’m not sure how it’s relevant here. Other than the OP (oldguy) staring “100% true” nobody questioned the veracity.

[ExGingi]

Then his response to me is meaningless. I wrote these aren’t all the facts, never questioned whether any of the stated facts are true.

And he confirmed, these aren’t all the facts. His insinuation that the additional facts only make it look worse might not be the whole truth either, even if all five passengers he (allegedly) spoke to suggested that was the case.

Your distinction between all facts and all the facts stands true, but I’m not sure how it’s relevant here. Other than the OP (oldguy) staring “100% true” nobody questioned the veracity.

Since you're going into insinuations, when a story paints a certain picture, and you state that you doubt whether those are all the facts, the insinuation is that there might be additional facts that paint a different picture. In your mind you might have not questioned the veracity of the facts stated in the article, but that is how your post came across.

To this @oldguy responded that the facts stated in the article are 100% true, and then added that there are additional facts that aren't stated in the article, that paint the picture in even stronger terms than the article stated.

We can summon our resident writing scholars @Yehuda57 and @Freddie to make a judgement on this.

[Yehuda57]

Since you're going into insinuations, when a story paints a certain picture, and you state that you doubt whether those are all the facts, the insinuation is that there might be additional facts that paint a different picture. In your mind you might have not questioned the veracity of the facts stated in the article, but that is how your post came across.

To this @oldguy responded that the facts stated in the article are 100% true, and then added that there are additional facts that aren't stated in the article, that paint the picture in even stronger terms than the article stated.

We can summon our resident writing scholars @Yehuda57 and @Freddie to make a judgement on this.

I am neither a scholar who writes or a scholar of writing, and Freddie hasn't been resident anything here for years.

[AsherO]

and Freddie hasn't been resident anything here for years.

Resident absentee?

[lubaby]

Resident absentee?

I have alternate accounts.

[AsherO]

Wouldn't make @Freddie (the DDFer, not the underlying person) any less absent