Ask a Lubavitcher Anything

[M3B3LY]

A story I think you will appreciate.
(Someone will have to chime in with the names)
2 Chassidim were sitting together discussing chassidus.
One turned to the other and asked him "what is Atzmus?"
The other told him he can't answer that.
But the first one wouldn't let up, and kept harassing him for an answer.
Finally the second chossid starting responding "Atzmus is", and as soon as he said that, the other smacked him across the face and told him "as soon as you say "Atzmus is", you aren't talking about Atzmus anymore".

The story happened with Zalman Moshe Yitzchaki, who was known more as an עובד, and he was asking/Farbrengen with Moshe Gurary who was know as a great משכיל.

[moko]

It wasn't easy for him, he practiced for a long time

obviously, for his missionary activities... 

[Something Fishy]

Hmmm, let’s see if I can remember, it’s been a while here’s where I admit to the world I was AWOL in 7th/8th grade, and things might have changed a lot since then anyway.

There isn’t yet any Chassidus before davening. Likely a daily reading of HaYom Yom. There is Gemara liyun that includes Gemara, Rashi, and some Tosfos. Then there’s Gemara l’girsa, Gemara+Rashi of Gemara that isn’t as lomdish. I think Chumash/Rashi is still taught in 7th grade, though maybe o

nly several times a week. Tanya, but not very advanced. Some token Halacha taught 2-3 times a week from Kitzur Shulchan Aruch. A sicha a week from the volumes 1-2 (or maybe 1-4) of likkutei sichos. A preparatory booklet of general knowledge/Halacha/Minh again before holidays.

Awesome, thanks.

[Dan]

What's a typical CH boy's lumudei kodesh curriculum like? Let's say bar mitzvah age. What subjects/limudim are taught?

It OT, it's just called curriculum
Lumudei chol ain't a thing.

[AsherO]

It OT, it's just called curriculum
Lumudei chol ain't a thing.

100%

At OT anything that smells like limudei chol is chazzer tried, their mission is חינוך על טהרת הקודש

ETA: to clarify, OP asked about CH in general and title is about Lubavitchers in general. It should be clarified that other Chabad achools in and out of CH have various standards for Limudei Chol, some of which are pretty high. Interesting it’s coming up now because I just found out a relative of mine teaches limudei chol at a CH school.

[EliJelly]

100%

At OT anything that smells like limudei chol is chazzer tried, their mission is חינוך על טהרת הקודש

Wow let's just send all anti common core revolutionaries over there.

[AsherO]

Wow let's just send all anti common core revolutionaries over there.

Because I’m sure they’re reading this thread on DDF to hone in on their targets

/s

[Yehuda57]

Where does one buy a bendel?

What's a typical CH boy's lumudei kodesh curriculum like? Let's say bar mitzvah age. What subjects/limudim are taught?

Soon, "anyone have the number for a realtor in Crown Heights?"

[lcm]

Soon, "anyone have the number for a realtor in Crown Heights?"

Shh, you weren't supposed to make it so obvious!

[AsherO]

Soon, "anyone have the number for a realtor in Crown Heights?"

You’re just hoping for local DOs with SF. Wishful thinking, cough up the big bucks and pursue some Kosher Horizons.

[Dan]

It should be clarified that other Chabad achools in and out of CH have various standards for Limudei Chol, some of which are pretty high.

Erm, namely?

[AsherO]

Erm, namely?

I’m not going there because I’m not making endorsements of any schools/communities. Maybe they’re not high by your standards, but they’re certainly high by OT’s non-existent standards.

[ExGingi]

I’m not going there because I’m not making endorsements of any schools/communities. Maybe they’re not high by your standards, but they’re certainly high by OT’s non-existent standards.

OT has the highest standard of excluding limudei chol. Though they might be outdone by Ohr Menachem and Ohel Yosef Yitzchok.

[Dan]

I’m not going there because I’m not making endorsements of any schools/communities. Maybe they’re not high by your standards, but they’re certainly high by OT’s non-existent standards.

My knowledge is admittedly 20 years old, but at that point in time, I don't think any Chabad mesivtas had even half decent limudei chol.
Curious if that has changed at all.

[M3B3LY]

My knowledge is admittedly 20 years old, but at that point in time, I don't think any Chabad mesivtas had even half decent limudei chol.
Curious if that has changed at all.

Speaking about chabad mesivta's general studies programs, here's a book from the view of a teacher who taught in yoec mesivta for three years, it's a great read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XGSTM67/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_HRHAGE1P4GRGBMEYFKFX

[ExGingi]

Speaking about chabad mesivta's general studies programs, here's a book from the view of a teacher who taught in yoec mesivta for three years, it's a great read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XGSTM67/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_HRHAGE1P4GRGBMEYFKFX

Waiting for some Smoking HOT deal to get it.

[koplonko]

That is an extremely dangerous approach. Do you really think you are better versed in נגלה דתורה and/or פנימיות התורה than the Lubavitcher Rebbe?

Find out what reb golf greenglas answered reb reuven Margolis when he said something like that (the reply was reviewed by the Rebbe)

[ExGingi]

Find out what reb golf greenglas answered reb reuven Margolis when he said something like that (the reply was reviewed by the Rebbe)

Would you be kind enough to share?

[Dan]

Speaking about chabad mesivta's general studies programs, here's a book from the view of a teacher who taught in yoec mesivta for three years, it's a great read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XGSTM67/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_HRHAGE1P4GRGBMEYFKFX

Heh. TLDR summary?

[gozalim]

Hmmm, let’s see if I can remember, it’s been a while here’s where I admit to the world I was AWOL in 7th/8th grade, and things might have changed a lot since then anyway.

There isn’t yet any Chassidus before davening. Likely a daily reading of HaYom Yom. There is Gemara liyun that includes Gemara, Rashi, and some Tosfos. Then there’s Gemara l’girsa, Gemara+Rashi of Gemara that isn’t as lomdish. I think Chumash/Rashi is still taught in 7th grade, though maybe only several times a week. Tanya, but not very advanced. Some token Halacha taught 2-3 times a week from Kitzur Shulchan Aruch. A sicha a week from the volumes 1-2 (or maybe 1-4) of likkutei sichos. A preparatory booklet of general knowledge/Halacha/Minh again before holidays.

sounds about right
about a year or so later (9th grade) is when transition from elementary to 'yeshiva' seder/curriculum takes place