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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1000 on: March 10, 2022, 10:34:09 AM »
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1001 on: March 10, 2022, 10:48:54 AM »
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1002 on: March 10, 2022, 10:55:06 AM »
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1003 on: March 10, 2022, 11:13:45 AM »
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1004 on: March 10, 2022, 12:04:30 PM »
Ok. We get it. Anyone who wants to ask a shaala and get a cop out answer can just call RC.

#chumrashopping
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1005 on: March 10, 2022, 02:42:53 PM »
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1006 on: March 10, 2022, 02:51:51 PM »
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1007 on: March 10, 2022, 02:53:21 PM »
#chumrashopping

Which way is a chumra?

FWIW, in Lubavitch we are never מחמיר, we try to be מהדר.
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1008 on: March 10, 2022, 03:25:41 PM »
Some are Lubavitcher rabonim?
FWIW, Rabbi Chaikin told me no exceptions, other than ufruf of course.
FYI, tali's at ufruf has nothing to do with chasuna. It's purely kovid hatzibur. Do your research

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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1009 on: March 10, 2022, 03:27:01 PM »
Which way is a chumra?

FWIW, in Lubavitch we are never מחמיר, we try to be מהדר.
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1010 on: March 10, 2022, 03:27:32 PM »
FYI, tali's at ufruf has nothing to do with chasuna. It's purely kovid hatzibur. Do your research
Why is it different than any other bochur getting an aliya in a Chabad shul?
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1011 on: March 10, 2022, 03:37:10 PM »
Why is it different than any other bochur getting an aliya in a Chabad shul?

In Chabad (by the Rebbe) Bar Mitzvah boys generally don't get Aliyas Shabbos morning, Mincha they don't wear a Talis and weekdays, the Rebbe would be at the Yeshiva Minyan so the assumption is that if the Tzibbur aren't wearing Talleisim, it's not necessary for Kovod Hatzibur.

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By the Rebbe, the only Bochurim to get Aliyas Shabbos morning were Chassanim by their Aufruf and they did wear a Talis. There were exceptions though. Such as a Bochur who Leined on Shabbos morning, or a Bar Mitzvah boy who got an Aliya on YT and they also wore a Talis.

Some say that whoever gets an Aliya by a Minyan which is mostly married men, should wear a Talis, and that's the only reason why a Chosson does. Others say that only a Chosson should but other Bochurim shouldn't wear a Talis even if they are getting an Aliya at Shachris in a Minyan which is mostly married men.
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1012 on: March 10, 2022, 03:43:06 PM »
All fine and well, but l'poel I've been to hundreds of Chabad Houses across 6 (does our boat count as 7?) continents and have never seen a Lubavitcher bochur put on a talis for shacharis at the amud or an aliya, though ufruf is an exception.
So saying "purely kovid hatzibur" and statements like "do your research" is bubbe maisos.
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1013 on: March 10, 2022, 03:51:05 PM »
All fine and well, but l'poel I've been to hundreds of Chabad Houses across 6 (does our boat count as 7?) continents and have never seen a Lubavitcher bochur put on a talis for shacharis at the amud or an aliya.
1. Can't bring a ראיה from Chabad houses.
2. I guess this is like many minhagim nowadays, which are established by practice which is based on ignorance.
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4. I have also never seen a Lubavitcher bochur put on a talis at the omud (except for Selichos) or an aliya.
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1014 on: March 10, 2022, 03:55:49 PM »
All fine and well, but l'poel I've been to hundreds of Chabad Houses across 6 (does our boat count as 7?) continents and have never seen a Lubavitcher bochur put on a talis for shacharis at the amud or an aliya, though ufruf is an exception.
Many years ago bochurim wore a talis when they got aliyas. Then bochurim became very chassidish and stopped by aliyas just like they don't (as says in hayim yom) by omud. The Rov in 770 at the time said that by Shabbos shacharis they should wear it because kovid hatzibur. And Although in lubavitch they are not makpid on kovid hatzibur, if an "outsider" sees it it not kovid hatzibur. Weekdays there are no balabatim so no concern

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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1015 on: March 10, 2022, 03:58:51 PM »
Many years ago bochurim wore a talis when they got aliyas. Then bochurim became very chassidish and stopped by aliyas just like they don't (as says in hayim yom) by omud. The Rov in 770 at the time said that by Shabbos shacharis they should wear it because kovid hatzibur. And Although in lubavitch they are not makpid on kovid hatzibur, if an "outsider" sees it it not kovid hatzibur. Weekdays there are no balabatim so no concern
Noch a mahl:
All fine and well, but l'poel I've been to hundreds of Chabad Houses across 6 (does our boat count as 7?) continents and have never seen a Lubavitcher bochur put on a talis for shacharis at the amud or an aliya, though ufruf is an exception.
So saying "purely kovid hatzibur" and statements like "do your research" is bubbe maisos.

I have also never seen a Lubavitcher bochur put on a talis at the omud (except for Selichos) or an aliya.

So again, why is it common minhag at Chabad shuls worldwide for bochurim to daven at the omud and get aliyas without a talis, but common minhag for chasanim at their ufruf to wear a talis?
You really want to tell me the answer to that question is "purely kovid hatzibur"?  ??? ???
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1016 on: March 10, 2022, 04:12:23 PM »
Noch a mahl:
So again, why is it common minhag at Chabad shuls worldwide for bochurim to daven at the omud and get aliyas without a talis, but common minhag for chasanim at their ufruf to wear a talis?
You really want to tell me the answer to that question is "purely kovid hatzibur"?  ??? ???


2. I guess this is like many minhagim nowadays, which are established by practice which is based on ignorance.
3. טוט אלץ וואס איהר ווילט...


אדרבא, why don't you explain away why is a tallis worn for an aufruf?
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1017 on: March 10, 2022, 04:25:33 PM »
אדרבא, why don't you explain away why is a tallis worn for an aufruf?
A lot easier to argue that it has to do with the proximity to the chasana and the levels of makif attained then, no?
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1018 on: March 10, 2022, 04:43:25 PM »
A lot easier to argue that it has to do with the proximity to the chasana and the levels of makif attained then, no?

Based on?
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Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
« Reply #1019 on: March 10, 2022, 04:45:54 PM »
Based on?
The argument the other way not making any sense?
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