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1. The group should be of 4 people. One person in charge of kneading, two people for rolling, and one by the oven. (A larger group will be too crowded, and everyone will just get in the way of one another.)

2. The dough should be exactly the size of 3 matzos. Person #1 takes care of the flour, water, kneading and all that.

3. As soon as the dough is ready, persons #2 and #3 are handed their pieces of dough. #2 will work on it the fastest, making it oven-ready, while #3 and #1 work on theirs a little slower.

4. After rolling, #2 makes the holes in his matzah, and #4 will take it to the oven.

5. When #2 has his hands empty, #1 hands him the third piece of dough to roll out, make holes, and send off.

6. #1, now free, returns to knead the next three-matzah batch. (Starting again from step 2.)

7. By the time #2’s matzah is baked, #3’s should be ready for the oven. (Meanwhile, #2 is working on the third matzah of the first batch.)

8. When #3’s matzah comes out, #2’s second one goes in. By this time, the dough from batch 2 should be ready, and they start again from step 3. (By this round it would make sense to have #2 and #3 switch roles, because #3 is now empty-handed, while #2 is still working on the third matzah of the first batch.)

Some pointers:
A: A Chai-minute shift holds about three rounds of steps 2-8, and takes approximately fifteen minutes. At this point everyone/everything washes up and the fifteen-minute shift starts over.

B: Every fifteen minute shift yields 9 matzos. (Depending on thickness of the matzah, this will usually be about 1 – 1 1/4 lbs. of matzah.)

C: Oven time is about 50 seconds, though there are many variables that strongly influence the speed of baking (including the humidity in the air!).

D: Take it easy! Don’t rush, as there is no point. Your matzos are limited to the capacity of the oven.

While technically, this is not really meant to be a time saver compared to the regular sized chaburahs in matzah bakeries, there is a certain serenity that you won’t find anywhere else. In addition, you can implement any chumras and minhagim as you wish, something that in a regular chabura or commercial bakery you’d have no authority over.

I hope it makes sense, and doesn’t come across as written too nerdy, but this is the “short” version of it… 😉

There’s a ton of fascinating science to the overall mtazha-baking process, including the type of fuel used (gas vs. wood vs. charcoal), weather conditions, origin of the wheat of which the flour is made, and even the length of the chimney! (But I have to leave something for the long version… 😀 )

Disclaimer: I haven’t tried it myself yet, I only got the details from a friend who’s been doing in an Ooni for a couple years now. I can get back with first-hand tips and/or changes once I actually try it. I do, however, run a regular chaburah for the past 15 years, so I am intimately familiar with the nuances of the general process.
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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2022, 03:38:47 PM »
You're not allowed to kasher from milk to meat or vice versa, unless it needs to be kashered for a different reason like if it became treif or for pesach.
libun may be different.
Isn't this normal practice for people who only have 1 oven?

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2022, 03:53:19 PM »
Isn't this normal practice for people who only have 1 oven?
No. They typically do not bake directly on the oven floor.
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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2022, 03:54:16 PM »
No. They typically do not bake directly on the oven floor.
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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2022, 03:54:23 PM »
No. They typically do not bake directly on the oven floor.
You bake on a stone, which would be replaced.
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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2022, 03:57:28 PM »
You bake on a stone, which would be replaced.

Ahh, but even without that,
libun may be different.
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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2022, 04:43:19 PM »
libun may be different.
iirc according to the MGA that's only if the libun (such as libun kal ie: milchig to fleishig or vice versa) is part of the (pre) cooking/baking process

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2023, 11:32:35 AM »
@Work-for-ur-muny any further advice on this? we are planning on doing it this year. Also, where did you get flour and water from? I'm assuming I can walk into a matzah bakery and ask them to buy some. Do you think that is feasible? (In brooklyn)

Seeing that he hasn't been active since 2018, I'm not hopeful that  we get a response from him but who knows. Anyone else have any further advice?

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2023, 12:09:00 PM »
We need a volunteer to go in front of a Matza bakery which charges an arm and a leg for a pound of hand matzo and make a video on how he saved hundreds of dollars making his own matzah in an Ooni. And it's even crunchier then theirs! That'll show them!

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2023, 01:09:10 PM »
We need a volunteer to go in front of a Matza bakery which charges an arm and a leg for a pound of hand matzo and make a video on how he saved hundreds of dollars making his own matzah in an Ooni. And it's even crunchier then theirs! That'll show them!
agree 100%
I just grab some all purpose flour, dump some water in the mixer and throw it all in the ooni

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2023, 01:42:42 PM »
We need a volunteer to go in front of a Matza bakery which charges an arm and a leg for a pound of hand matzo and make a video on how he saved hundreds of dollars making his own matzah in an Ooni. And it's even crunchier then theirs! That'll show them!
What exactly will it show them? ::)

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2023, 06:09:07 PM »
@Work-for-ur-muny any further advice on this? we are planning on doing it this year. Also, where did you get flour and water from? I'm assuming I can walk into a matzah bakery and ask them to buy some. Do you think that is feasible? (In brooklyn)

Seeing that he hasn't been active since 2018, I'm not hopeful that  we get a response from him but who knows. Anyone else have any further advice?
in all seriousness, I'm not looking to do all my matzah this way - just erev pesach matzos

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2023, 06:14:33 PM »
in all seriousness, I'm not looking to do all my matzah this way - just erev pesach matzos
of course. As long you know what your doing until the oven step , it's hot enough

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2023, 07:24:12 PM »

Getting shmurah flour


This is the biggest issue. In EY, its available, not in the US.
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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2023, 08:01:02 PM »
I'm very interested in doing this. There's no where to buy shmura flour from? Any bakery that would sell me a few pounds?

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2023, 09:41:14 AM »
I'm very interested in doing this. There's no where to buy shmura flour from? Any bakery that would sell me a few pounds?
I'm gonna see if a bakery would sell me a few pounds. if I have any success I will report back. If anyone else has success please let us know.

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2023, 10:03:27 PM »
Anyone use an Ooni to make their own matzah?

As I commented elsewhere, I don't see this as a practical solution for anything but a small batch of מצות מצווה.
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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2023, 10:15:55 AM »
I used this oven erev pesach. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09V13V8NG/ref=cfb_at_prodpg
Needs practice to learn the baking time and maintain the correct temperature
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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2024, 04:49:32 PM »
I'm gonna see if a bakery would sell me a few pounds. if I have any success I will report back. If anyone else has success please let us know.

Did you have success buying shmura flour and water from Matza bakery? which?

I wanna do it this year, for erev pesach matzas

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #38 on: February 29, 2024, 05:50:25 AM »
The getting the matza in the oven step has me curious
How do you get it the oven? The same way as the bakerys, draped over the stick?
The oonis vertical clearance is so small!

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Re: Baking Matzah In An Ooni
« Reply #39 on: February 29, 2024, 09:04:54 AM »
The getting the matza in the oven step has me curious
How do you get it the oven? The same way as the bakerys, draped over the stick?
The oonis vertical clearance is so small!
Probably with a flat pizza peel style tool
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