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Re: “Conservative” Supreme Court turns Liberal
« Reply #160 on: May 22, 2025, 08:24:28 PM »
JUSTICE SCALIA, with whom THE CHIEF JUSTICE and JUSTICE THOMAS join, dissenting.

The Court today finds that the Powers That Be, up in Albany, have conspired to effect an establishment of the Satmar Hasidim. I do not know who would be more surprised at this discovery: the Founders of our Nation or Grand Rebbe Joel Teitelbaum, founder of the Satmar. The Grand Rebbe would be astounded to learn that after escaping brutal persecution and coming to America with the modest hope of religious toleration for their ascetic form of Judaism, the Satmar had become so powerful, so closely allied with Mammon, as to have become an "establishment" of the Empire State. And the Founding Fathers would be astonished to find that the Establishment Clause-which they designed "to insure that no one powerful sect or combination of sects could use political or governmental power to punish dissenters," Zorach v. Clauson, 343 U. S. 306, 319 (1952) (Black, J., dissenting)-has been employed to prohibit characteristically and admirably American accommodation of the religious practices (or more precisely, cultural peculiarities) of a tiny minority sect. I, however, am not surprised. Once this Court has abandoned text and history as guides, nothing prevents it from calling religious toleration the establishment of religion.
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Re: “Conservative” Supreme Court turns Liberal
« Reply #161 on: May 22, 2025, 08:45:07 PM »
Also this isn’t so much acb bc it’s split 4-4 so which 2 conservatives flipped (I assume Robert’s and who else?)
3 liberals + Roberts

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Re: “Conservative” Supreme Court turns Liberal
« Reply #162 on: May 22, 2025, 09:15:39 PM »
I listened to the arguments without reading up on the case beforehand, and  IMHO it's not a no brainer in the slightest. I'm not even sure which way you think the "no brainer" should go.
This isn't a debate class. SCOTUS enforces the constitution, not who has the better argument.

The republican Oklahoma court thinks it is a no-brainer.

"Oklahoma's top court, in a 6-2 ruling last year, blocked the school."
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Re: “Conservative” Supreme Court turns Liberal
« Reply #163 on: May 22, 2025, 09:16:03 PM »
3 liberals + Roberts
Did they release the vote?
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Re: “Conservative” Supreme Court turns Liberal
« Reply #164 on: May 22, 2025, 09:35:01 PM »
This isn't a debate class. SCOTUS enforces the constitution, not who has the better argument.

The republican Oklahoma court thinks it is a no-brainer.

"Oklahoma's top court, in a 6-2 ruling last year, blocked the school."

How does a 6-2 vote show it is a no-brainer?
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Re: “Conservative” Supreme Court turns Liberal
« Reply #165 on: May 22, 2025, 09:35:57 PM »
How does a 6-2 vote show it is a no-brainer?
Because the 2 who voted against something so obvious must be partisan hacks.

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Re: “Conservative” Supreme Court turns Liberal
« Reply #166 on: May 23, 2025, 12:36:29 AM »
3 liberals + Roberts
thanks, idk my brain was not working just then :)
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