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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #180 on: November 05, 2021, 12:24:06 PM »
A simple on-topic not loaded question that is not answered by anyone.
The nerve of some accusing me of not answering.  :P
I thought it was rhetorical, and additionally didn't see a quoted post, so assumed it was not directed at me. Feel free to elaborate and I'll happily do my best to respond :)
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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #181 on: November 05, 2021, 12:24:38 PM »
Because you said it outright here. What was the point you were trying to make? Just to start the discussion?
Are you accusing me of posting something to just get people to think? How dare you!!!
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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #182 on: November 05, 2021, 12:25:15 PM »
Are you accusing me of posting something to just get people to think? How dare you!!!
Never. You know people don't think. :-X  I do think the execution left room for many other interpretations though.
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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #183 on: November 05, 2021, 12:27:38 PM »
I thought it was rhetorical, and additionally didn't see a quoted post, so assumed it was not directed at me. Feel free to elaborate and I'll happily do my best to respond :)
That was the subject I was discussing. Wanted to see if we were on the same page.
My position is simple.
1 - It was wrong to separate them.
2 - I have no issue for compensating them for this wrong.
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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #184 on: November 05, 2021, 12:29:58 PM »
I do think the execution left room for many other interpretations though.
You are 100% correct. The way one interprets something says a lot.
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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #185 on: November 05, 2021, 12:32:37 PM »
You are 100% correct. The way one interprets something says a lot.
Yes it does say a lot about what types of things people are expecting to be written by the writer.
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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #186 on: November 05, 2021, 12:37:19 PM »
That was the subject I was discussing. Wanted to see if we were on the same page.
My position is simple.
1 - It was wrong to separate them.
2 - I have no issue for compensating them for this wrong.
As far as point #1, I thought we both agreed we didn't know of an alternative, so we' can't certainly say it was wrong? Was it great and praiseworthy? I personally don't think so. I don't know what other option were on the table and how much more detrimental those options would have been to the American people, or those families. I believe that is a HUGE factor in deciding how to proceed in that type of situation.


Point #2, If determined that this was not the best option I would say it's still up in the air. When you do something unlawful, can it impact what legal liberties/entitlements you have? (remember I referenced the Kyle R case?). What would be qualifying them for comp? They definitely don't have rights as Americans which they are not, but they definitely have rights as humans. The question then would be, assuming the separation was not the best option, and assuming they have rights to protect them from that, and assuming those right were violated in a way that would require compensation that they are eligible for, what is a fair amount. I can see all those answers being yes, and no, I truly don't know.
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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #187 on: November 05, 2021, 12:38:21 PM »
Yes it does say a lot about what types of things people are expecting to be written by the writer.
You mean like I expect this from you?
Is this like rubber and glue?  :)
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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #188 on: November 05, 2021, 12:39:41 PM »
You mean like I expect this from you?
Is this like rubber and glue?  :)
You are definitely from the members more likely to make provocative arguments like that and it will reflect in how people interpret what you write.
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Re: Bidenís Border Crisis
« Reply #189 on: November 05, 2021, 12:40:09 PM »
You are 100% correct. The way one interprets something says a lot.
Ok, I'll push back here. Prior to this discussion, it looked pretty clear that you were strawman-ing or the likes. Don't put it on the interpreter, because I'd say most unbiased individuals would say you twisted that.
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Re: Bidenís Crisis
« Reply #190 on: November 13, 2021, 10:43:52 PM »
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