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We arrived yesterday at the Hyatt grand reserve and was surprised to find a kosher pesach program here.
How should I describe it ? The noise, the dirt (parents sit by the pool while counselors hand out ice cream) the place just looks and feels like a zoo not exactly the kind of vacation I signed up for...

But now I received this via WhatsApp ď Hyatt in Puerto Rico is threatening to shut down the entire Pesach program if people don't wear masksĒ

The mask compliance is non existent and while Iím not nervous for my personal safety (itís all mostly outdoors) the chilul hashem is crazy.
Weíve also seen guests lash out at employees.

The whole thing just makes me sad, why some Jewish people canít be respectful of others and their requirements when coming here, basic decency towards employees that work here they are not your slaves.
/rant 😢😢
« Last Edit: March 31, 2021, 05:08:47 PM by Dan »

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We arrived yesterday at the Hyatt grand reserve and was surprised to find a kosher pesach program here.
How should I describe it ? The noise, the dirt (parents sit by the pool while counselors hand out ice cream) the place just looks and feels like a zoo not exactly the kind of vacation I signed up for...

But now I received this via WhatsApp ď Hyatt in Puerto Rico is threatening to shut down the entire Pesach program if people don't wear masksĒ

The mask compliance is non existent and while Iím not nervous for my personal safety (itís all mostly outdoors) the chilul hashem is crazy.
Weíve also seen guests lash out at employees.

The whole thing just makes me sad, why some Jewish people canít be respectful of others and their requirements when coming here, basic decency towards employees that work here they are not your slaves.
/rant 😢😢
Let them all get kicked out for noncompliance and you can enjoy your vacation.


<ducks and runs>

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We arrived yesterday at the Hyatt grand reserve and was surprised to find a kosher pesach program here.
How should I describe it ? The noise, the dirt (parents sit by the pool while counselors hand out ice cream) the place just looks and feels like a zoo not exactly the kind of vacation I signed up for...

But now I received this via WhatsApp ď Hyatt in Puerto Rico is threatening to shut down the entire Pesach program if people don't wear masksĒ
The mask compliance is non existent and while Iím not nervous for my personal safety (itís all mostly outdoors) the chilul hashem is crazy.
Weíve also seen guests lash out at employees.

The whole thing just makes me sad, why some Jewish people canít be respectful of others and their requirements when coming here, basic decency towards employees that work here they are not your slaves.
/rant 😢😢
Surprised that the program didn't book out the hotel.

Sadly, nothing here is surprising :(
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Re: Puerto Rico Master Thread
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2021, 05:06:39 PM »
Let them all get kicked out for noncompliance and you can enjoy your vacation.


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Ha we secretly hoped that would happen, although authorities will probably shut the whole place down...
Surprised that the program didn't book out the hotel.

Sadly, nothing here is surprising :(
itís a pretty big place 400+ rooms, its booked out now though...


Itís not the noise youíd expect that from any big crowd renting a place, itís the pure entitlement of people that bothers me...

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Isn't Elan Kornblum from the great kosher restaurant foodies group staying with this program? You should talk to him about it.   

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Re: Puerto Rico Master Thread
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2021, 05:50:51 PM »
Ha we secretly hoped that would happen, although authorities will probably shut the whole place down...itís a pretty big place 400+ rooms, its booked out now though...


Itís not the noise youíd expect that from any big crowd renting a place, itís the pure entitlement of people that bothers me...
If you paid, what they paid, you might feel entitled too (Im guessing)

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And here I thought that pesach program goers are more cautious about causing Aiva.

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If you paid, what they paid, you might feel entitled too (Im guessing)

Why does entitlement have to equal chazzerei?

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Why does entitlement have to equal chazzerei?
Its not just that, we witnessed a women literally screaming at front desk because they didnít have crib for her toddler, now I get it itís frustrating (I have a toddler myself and no crib available) but thereís a way to speak to human beings!! In the end they somehow got more cribs at night.
An older fellow throwing candy in the koi pond.
I donít want to go around badmouthing Yiden but this behavior honestly breaks my heart.

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Its not just that, we witnessed a women literally screaming at front desk because they didnít have crib for her toddler, now I get it itís frustrating (I have a toddler myself and no crib available) but thereís a way to speak to human beings!! In the end they somehow got more cribs at night.
An older fellow throwing candy in the koi pond.
I donít want to go around badmouthing Yiden but this behavior honestly breaks my heart.

This is just poor planning from the program planners. They could have asked their guests how many cribs would be needed and informed the hotel in advance.

I imagine not foreseeing every possibility, but cribs for babies are the basics.

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This is just poor planning from the program planners. They could have asked their guests how many cribs would be needed and informed the hotel in advance.

I imagine not foreseeing every possibility, but cribs for babies are the basics.
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This is just poor planning from the program planners. They could have asked their guests how many cribs would be needed and informed the hotel in advance.

I imagine not foreseeing every possibility, but cribs for babies are the basics.
Do you know all the details? I don't either but if she was screaming she probably asked for it and expected to get it and was surprised when she didn't, and when you're in that situation its devastating, what do you with a baby you can't just put them in a cabinet and move on

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Do you know all the details? I don't either but if she was screaming she probably asked for it and expected to get it and was surprised when she didn't, and when you're in that situation its devastating, what do you with a baby you can't just put them in a cabinet and move on

Erm. Read what he wrote again?
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I will tell you that I've been to a few hotels in PR over the past few months, and the mask policy is pretty strict in all of them.
They take it seriously in PR.

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Erm. Read what he wrote again?
I did still don't get your point, Asher points out that the program could've asked in advance how many cribs you need, I'm asking how do you know they didn't, I don't believe she would scream if she wouldn't expect a crib, am I missing something here?