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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #160 on: June 03, 2021, 06:25:15 PM »
So this is just another pie in the sky. I can give you many examples of people going back to work making less including my own daughter.
Hire them back and if they don't come back cut off their unemployment.

Hire them back where? And how does this make your statement factual?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #161 on: June 03, 2021, 06:27:05 PM »
Because you know of people who went back to work for less means that they don't pay anyone?
People game the system, they lie!!! The government is not paying anyone not to work. What is so hard to understand?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #162 on: June 03, 2021, 06:28:27 PM »
Hire them back where? And how does this make your statement factual?
So there is no jobs for them. That is why it is called UI and not PFNW.  ::)
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #163 on: June 03, 2021, 06:34:56 PM »
Provide a link for where I sign up to get paid for not working. PUOSU!!!
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #164 on: June 03, 2021, 06:39:31 PM »
So there is no jobs for them. That is why it is called UI and not PFNW.  ::)

Once on unemployment, what's stopping anyone from staying on it (I know different states and localities are different, but in NYC....)
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #165 on: June 03, 2021, 06:43:51 PM »
Once on unemployment, what's stopping anyone from staying on it (I know different states and localities are different, but in NYC....)
In IL if your employer wanted you back you would have to lie to stay on UI and they still might catch you.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #166 on: June 03, 2021, 07:50:38 PM »
In IL if your employer wanted you back you would have to lie to stay on UI and they still might catch you.

And if your employer is gone or your job is no longer available? Or if you were self-employed or a gig worker?

So there is no jobs for them. That is why it is called UI and not PFNW.  ::)

What? Why are there no jobs for them? We have all these places complaining about labor shortages. There are plenty of jobs. People are choosing to remain unemployed rather than find new jobs.

Provide a link for where I sign up to get paid for not working. PUOSU!!!

Your statement was that Uncle Sam isn't paying anyone to stay home. It wasn't that anyone can click on a link and get paid for not working. Your statement was false. I'm sorry there's no link for you to sign up anymore. It's grandfathered in for older accounts.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #167 on: June 03, 2021, 08:27:07 PM »
Your statement was that Uncle Sam isn't paying anyone to stay home. It wasn't that anyone can click on a link and get paid for not working. Your statement was false. I'm sorry there's no link for you to sign up anymore. It's grandfathered in for older accounts.
There never was a link or a program to get paid to stay home. You are trying to twist yourself into a pretzel pretending UI=getting paid to stay home. Yes there are scumbags that game the system and you seem to know some of them.

By your logic all UI even before the pandemic was getting paid to stay home.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #168 on: June 03, 2021, 08:46:06 PM »
There never was a link or a program to get paid to stay home. You are trying to twist yourself into a pretzel pretending UI=getting paid to stay home. Yes there are scumbags that game the system and you seem to know some of them.

By your logic all UI even before the pandemic was getting paid to stay home.

You should change your name to Auntie Anne. Enough with the pretzels.

Regular UI lasts up to a year, and is very little. UI has been extended well past a year now. There's also PUA, which added $300-600 per week, effectively doubling or even tripling benefits for most people. Add in stimulus money, plus no rent/mortgage expense, and you now have a very sizeable chunk of the workforce who can maintain or exceed their previous standard of living without working. And that's without the free food, lowered thresholds for Medicaid, or the plethora of other smaller subsidies from local and federal agencies and non-profits. On top of that, you have people who wouldn't have qualified for UI, like people who were self-employed or gig workers.

This isn't "gaming the system." This IS the system. It actively encourages people to sit at home and collect the handouts instead of looking for work. It was built to do that. We wanted people to stay home in the beginning of the pandemic, so the system was set up to facilitate and encourage that. The situation on the ground has changed significantly since April 2020, but the system hasn't adapted.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #169 on: June 03, 2021, 08:57:18 PM »
In IL if your employer wanted you back you would have to lie to stay on UI and they still might catch you.
Good thing IL takes corruption very seriously. :P

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #170 on: June 03, 2021, 09:28:49 PM »
This isn't "gaming the system." This IS the system. It actively encourages people to sit at home and collect the handouts instead of looking for work. It was built to do that. We wanted people to stay home in the beginning of the pandemic, so the system was set up to facilitate and encourage that. The situation on the ground has changed significantly since April 2020, but the system hasn't adapted.
Pure BS!!! Post the link that the reason was to get people to stay home. H*ll it should be right in the bill. Do really believe this crap you are posting?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #171 on: June 03, 2021, 09:31:55 PM »
Pure BS!!! Post the link that the reason was to get people to stay home. H*ll it should be right in the bill. Do really believe this crap you are posting?

Sorry, have you forgotten the whole "stay at home unless you're an essential worker" thing that was all the rage last year? Or the businesses that were forced to close to flatten the curve? You need a link? Seriously?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #172 on: June 03, 2021, 09:39:42 PM »
Sorry, have you forgotten the whole "stay at home unless you're an essential worker" thing that was all the rage last year? Or the businesses that were forced to close to flatten the curve? You need a link? Seriously?
Yes I want a link where the bill was passed to keep people from going to work. The bill never said that and it was never its intent.
To prove you wrong the double dip was a mistake on the R's part.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #173 on: June 03, 2021, 09:44:42 PM »
Yes I want a link where the bill was passed to keep people from going to work. The bill never said that and it was never its intent.
To prove you wrong the double dip was a mistake on the R's part.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #174 on: June 03, 2021, 09:49:17 PM »
Uh, what? Now you want me to give you a  link to a bill you made up and no one mentioned other than you? Sorry, I'm out. Reached my monthly limit.
You make claims but can't back them up. If the propose was to keep people home then why wouldn't the bill state that.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #175 on: June 03, 2021, 09:54:32 PM »
You make claims but can't back them up. If the propose was to keep people home then why wouldn't the bill state that.
If the purpose of voter ID was too suppress the vote, wouldn't it be called a voter suppression bill instead of voter ID?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #176 on: June 03, 2021, 09:58:58 PM »
If the purpose of voter ID was too suppress the vote, wouldn't it be called a voter suppression bill instead of voter ID?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #177 on: June 03, 2021, 10:03:01 PM »
You make claims but can't back them up. If the propose was to keep people home then why wouldn't the bill state that.

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You may be covered if one of these reasons, among others, applies:

You or someone in your home was diagnosed with COVID-19, or have symptoms and are waiting to be diagnosed
You’re caring for a family member or someone in your home who has COVID-19
You’re caring for a child whose school or childcare is closed because of COVID-19
You’ve been quarantined by a government body or medical professional
You’ve lost your job or cannot reach your job because of COVID-19
You’ve become the main source of income for a household due to a death caused by COVID-19
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But no, they weren't incentivizing anyone with $600 on top of UI in order to stay home.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #178 on: June 03, 2021, 10:27:05 PM »
Couldn't help myself.
https://blog.dol.gov/2020/05/11/4-things-to-know-about-unemployment-benefits-under-the-cares-act

But no, they weren't incentivizing anyone with $600 on top of UI in order to stay home.
IMHO you are reading it wrong. If my daughter put down on the app she refuses to work because of covid her UI would be denied.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #179 on: June 03, 2021, 10:28:01 PM »
IMHO you are reading it wrong. If my daughter put down on the app she refuses to work because of covid her UI would be denied.

That's false. And if you want to say that, you'd better bring a source.
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