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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #760 on: January 24, 2022, 09:04:54 AM »
Are the shluchim there going through proper training to certify all these complicated plants and machinery?

They have been doing hashgacha for years. Seems like the difference is that now they are doing more (most?) of it, and are charging more.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #761 on: January 24, 2022, 10:50:16 AM »
They have been doing hashgacha for years. Seems like the difference is that now they are doing more (most?) of it, at higher risk and are charging more.

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Re: [Hyper] inflation On The Horizon
« Reply #762 on: January 26, 2022, 08:42:37 PM »
https://twitter.com/KolHaolam/status/1486514260742180882

@mods it's time to remove the question mark and the first word of the title,
You can also remove the prefix "hyper" to satisfy @ExGingi

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Re: [Hyper] inflation On The Horizon
« Reply #763 on: January 26, 2022, 09:40:19 PM »
https://twitter.com/KolHaolam/status/1486514260742180882

@mods it's time to remove the question mark and the first word of the title,
You can also remove the prefix "hyper" to satisfy @ExGingi

15% immediate price hikes is well on the road to "hyper."
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #764 on: January 26, 2022, 11:45:44 PM »
15% immediate price hikes is well on the road to "hyper."
most here don't care much about hyper, meaning for some as long as its not hyper its all good, while others are just upset of the lose of buying power without going into details if it meets or exceeds the definition of hyper
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #766 on: January 28, 2022, 10:57:37 AM »
https://twitter.com/Hasidic_3/status/1487052039733583875
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #767 on: January 28, 2022, 11:10:28 AM »
For those who understand supply chain economics, inflation hits specialty items exponentially harder than standard items.
A basic reason for this that over larger volume you can afford to have a lower margin than when the volume is much lower.
I'm one of those images they compare store brand mayo with gefen. The comparison is ludicrous. You can't even compare gefen to a name brand like Hellman's. It need to be compared to a specialty Mayo for proper comparison. You'll likely see very similar results if you don't be comps correctly.
You can't compare CY milk to your local store brand or even to a national brand like Dean or Hood. If you compare to locally sourced or specialty milk, you'll find the pricing far more similar.
For example, a 1/2 gallon specialty milk in stop mad shop sell for $3.49 and CY milk sells for $3.69.
This is why many out of town communities find it cheaper to bring in CY than produce their own. I could easily set up a CY operation locally for our community but the price would be the same or higher than bringing it from NY.

One of the main driving forces for pricing is volume.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #768 on: January 28, 2022, 11:32:25 AM »
For those who understand supply chain economics, inflation hits specialty items exponentially harder than standard items.
A basic reason for this that over larger volume you can afford to have a lower margin than when the volume is much lower.
I'm one of those images they compare store brand mayo with gefen. The comparison is ludicrous. You can't even compare gefen to a name brand like Hellman's. It need to be compared to a specialty Mayo for proper comparison. You'll likely see very similar results if you don't be comps correctly.
You can't compare CY milk to your local store brand or even to a national brand like Dean or Hood. If you compare to locally sourced or specialty milk, you'll find the pricing far more similar.
For example, a 1/2 gallon specialty milk in stop mad shop sell for $3.49 and CY milk sells for $3.69.
This is why many out of town communities find it cheaper to bring in CY than produce their own. I could easily set up a CY operation locally for our community but the price would be the same or higher than bringing it from NY.

One of the main driving forces for pricing is volume.
Volume.Volume.Volume
Why can't you compare Gefen mayo to store brands made at the same private label plant?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #769 on: January 28, 2022, 11:34:13 AM »

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Re: [Hyper] inflation On The Horizon
« Reply #770 on: January 28, 2022, 11:37:58 AM »
@mods it's time to remove the question mark and the first word of the title,
You can also remove the prefix "hyper" to satisfy @ExGingi
We should change to “Is Hyperinflation here to stay?”

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Re: [Hyper] inflation On The Horizon
« Reply #771 on: January 28, 2022, 11:45:55 AM »
We should change to “Hyperinflation is here to stay”
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #772 on: January 28, 2022, 12:02:18 PM »
Why can't you compare Gefen mayo to store brands made at the same private label plant?

There’s overhead involved with Kashering the plant for the one-off Kosher run, and then the Hashgacha.

I still think it’s inflated compared to their real cost increases, but some of it can be explained.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #773 on: January 28, 2022, 12:07:44 PM »
There’s overhead involved with Kashering the plant for the one-off Kosher run, and then the Hashgacha.

I still think it’s inflated compared to their real cost increases, but some of it can be explained.
THe expense of kashering is dependent on the plant. If it is always kosher that will be much less even though some heimishe hechsherim will still require a level of kashering. Also, many of the heimishe brands piggyback off each other for the productions. If those are the differences then it should not be nearly as pronounced.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #774 on: January 28, 2022, 12:27:56 PM »
Hashgacha is no excuse to charge double.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #775 on: January 28, 2022, 01:52:00 PM »
I know that heimishe canola oil companies have no superiority in kashrus over the big brands with an OU, I wonder where mayonnaise fall in. Gotta ask the Magrover about Hellmans vs Gefen.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #776 on: January 28, 2022, 02:28:43 PM »
Gotta ask the Magrover about Hellmans vs Gefen.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #777 on: January 28, 2022, 02:30:11 PM »
I know that heimishe canola oil companies have no superiority in kashrus over the big brands with an OU, I wonder where mayonnaise fall in. Gotta ask the Magrover about Hellmans vs Gefen.
According to someone in the industry, Mayonnaise is the only product actually produced by Kayco. A better example would be Ketchup.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #778 on: January 28, 2022, 02:40:34 PM »
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #779 on: January 28, 2022, 02:45:15 PM »
I know that heimishe canola oil companies have no superiority in kashrus over the big brands with an OU,
I know of a restaurant that lost it's heimishe hechsher and eventually closed down over this.
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