Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?

[ExGingi]

I know of a restaurant that lost it's heimishe hechsher and eventually closed down over this.

Protecting their own. או קנה מיד עמיתך

[yungermanchik]

Protecting their own. או קנה מיד עמיתך

I think it was more of a power struggle between the mashgiach and the proprietor.

[yesitsme]

Protecting their own. או קנה מיד עמיתך

it might be the same but they set standards that you need to follow, even if the logic says otherwise
when I was a buchor learning in EY, i used to eat by a ruv, a baal machshir, I asked him about a hechsher if its relieble, he told me that its fine I can eat it, there was once a mistaken delivery to yeshiva with an item that had that hechsher so I told this ruv about it (I was happy to know that its a good hechsher) so he asked me if I made sure that its returned and no one ate from it, I told him what do you mean you said its good, so he responded the hechsher is good but the yeshiva has a geder which hachsharim they use and this hechsher is not one of those

so not always its kosher or not kosher, sometimes its policeis to keep it all kosher

[moko]

Why can't you compare Gefen mayo to store brands made at the same private label plant?

volume, volume, volume.
The store brand doesn't need the margins the Heimishe brand needs and is often getting a better deal

[aygart]

I know of a restaurant that lost it's heimishe hechsher and eventually closed down over this.

As they should of they refuse to comply with the most trivial rule.

[aygart]

He was the one upfront with me about oil

Ahh

[aygart]

volume, volume, volume.
The store brand doesn't need the margins the Heimishe brand needs and is often getting a better deal

You have better access to the numbers than I do, but I am skeptical that some smaller store brands have significantly more volume than the heimishe. There are very large groups who will exclusively buy them and many others who buy them in frum stores the way one would buy a store brand.

[EliJelly]

Ahh

ahh

Ain't gonna rack my brain over this, maybe you are just entering a super hot mikvah.

[ExGingi]

it might be the same but they set standards that you need to follow, even if the logic says otherwise
when I was a buchor learning in EY, i used to eat by a ruv, a baal machshir, I asked him about a hechsher if its relieble, he told me that its fine I can eat it, there was once a mistaken delivery to yeshiva with an item that had that hechsher so I told this ruv about it (I was happy to know that its a good hechsher) so he asked me if I made sure that its returned and no one ate from it, I told him what do you mean you said its good, so he responded the hechsher is good but the yeshiva has a geder which hachsharim they use and this hechsher is not one of those

so not always its kosher or not kosher, sometimes its policeis to keep it all kosher

As my FIL would say: מ׳האט אויפגעהערט עסן כשר, און אנגעהויבן עסן הכשרים.

[yesitsme]

As my FIL would say: מ׳האט אויפגעהערט עסן כשר, און אנגעהויבן עסן הכשרים.

true, we live in a commercial world its impossible otherwise

[jye]

For those who understand supply chain economics, inflation hits specialty items exponentially harder than standard items.
A basic reason for this that over larger volume you can afford to have a lower margin than when the volume is much lower.
I'm one of those images they compare store brand mayo with gefen. The comparison is ludicrous. You can't even compare gefen to a name brand like Hellman's. It need to be compared to a specialty Mayo for proper comparison. You'll likely see very similar results if you don't be comps correctly.
You can't compare CY milk to your local store brand or even to a national brand like Dean or Hood. If you compare to locally sourced or specialty milk, you'll find the pricing far more similar.
For example, a 1/2 gallon specialty milk in stop mad shop sell for $3.49 and CY milk sells for $3.69.
This is why many out of town communities find it cheaper to bring in CY than produce their own. I could easily set up a CY operation locally for our community but the price would be the same or higher than bringing it from NY.

One of the main driving forces for pricing is volume.
Volume.Volume.Volume

That doesn’t explain why POTF milk which is the same process as Kreider Farms milk goes for $3.79 while a gallon of non specialty CS milk goes for around the same price....

[jye]

The consumer really needs a comprehensive list of non sensitive items such as pasta, where (other than yoshon) one is getting the same lichatchila standard whether he is buying Shoprite elbows at 50 cents a box  or Gefen elbows at 5 times the price. There are hundreds of such products. The consumer can then make an educated decision and prices would come down.

[yesitsme]

The consumer really needs a comprehensive list of non sensitive items such as pasta, where (other than yoshon) one is getting the same lichatchila standard whether he is buying Shoprite elbows at 50 cents a box  or Gefen elbows at 5 times the price. There are hundreds of such products. The consumer can then make an educated decision and prices would come down.

Very True

[yuneeq]

The consumer really needs a comprehensive list of non sensitive items such as pasta, where (other than yoshon) one is getting the same lichatchila standard whether he is buying Shoprite elbows at 50 cents a box  or Gefen elbows at 5 times the price. There are hundreds of such products. The consumer can then make an educated decision and prices would come down.

If you ask me, purchasing non-CY should also be on the table. If you hold it's a chumra, there's no reason to struggle to pay the bills. The price differences are insane.

[Euclid]

Interesting thought I had over shabbos: buying products using Buy Now, Pay Later services (Affirm etc) may make a lot of sense now, if you expect inflation to keep rising at this rate.

[yesitsme]

Coca-cola also went up in price

how much is a bottle of Fresca?
pre covid Bingo/NPGS 1.59
now 1.79
Seasons 2.29

[AsherO]

Interesting thought I had over shabbos: buying products using Buy Now, Pay Later services (Affirm etc) may make a lot of sense now, if you expect inflation to keep rising at this rate.

Many of them FWIU are short term, like 4 payments every two weeks. A total gimmick, designed to exploit poor people who can’t afford to buy things upfront.

[Euclid]

Many of them FWIU are short term, like 4 payments every two weeks. A total gimmick, designed to exploit poor people who can’t afford to buy things upfront.

Ah - or even zero percent APR (first year) cards...

[AsherO]

Ah - or even zero percent APR (first year) cards...

Somehow I find the four-payment Affirm-type model more exploitative. But you’re right, the CC industry is no different.

[Euclid]

Somehow I find the four-payment Affirm-type model more exploitative. But you’re right, the CC industry is no different.

Lol yeah. But I meant about hedging against inflation. Borrow now on a zero APR card.